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newton kabiddles



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lekker wrote:
The U.S. Army should withdraw from here completely.

What about the Air Force? You bad person!
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She was going under the bus to get into a restricted area, there were hundreds of people trying to do the same thing, the police had the job of stopping all people from getting into the restriced area. For anyone one who has been in a tough spot when you could be in physical danger you know that things happen fast. The cop saw someone coming under the bus, he stomped on their head to ensure that they didn't come into the restricted area. It didn't matter if it was a man or a woman. The fact is that someone was coming into an area that they weren't supposed to be in order to participate in a violent protest. Everyone going past those busses should have known they were going somewhere they shouldn't be and that it could be dangerous. If they didn't know they leaders of the protest are to blame for not informing their followers of what was going to happen. The cop was doing his job as were all the other police. He probably didn't even register that he stomped on a female. He was keeping protestors away from the blue house as best as he could.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Perhaps the students who attended this had no interest in trying to rush the police. I imagine that a bunch of older anti-LMB people tried their best to start a riot to further their cause. The young people just got swept up in it.

Got swept up.... Okay, anything is possible but within limits. However things may snowball, however uncontrollable the situation becomes, one simply does not find themselves at Ground Zero in these rallies by sheer accident. THIS is South Korea and THAT SPOT was Ground Zero in a protest that anyone with a pair of eyes and a TV set could see was getting more & more chaotic and violent with every passing day. And faces have been getting smashed under boots at Korean demos since the Dawn of Time, this is a foregone conclusion. A pity, but a foregone conclusion.

Bigfeet wrote:
How long before riot police have to take sensitivity training and proper stomping etiquette classes? Laughing

Koreans should just thank their lucky stars they don't have mounted riot police here as they do in such 3rd World hellholes as Western Europe and the US. For there would surely be enough mangled young faces at the end of the night to keep this country's plastic surgeons busy for years.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lekker wrote:

Kicking women in the head is intolerable and I hope he gets it far worse and he probably will.. I can only think about my sisters or my mother when watching that video.


Your use of the term "women" here is quite strongly implying that you think kicking a woman in the head is somehow exceptional in the world of head kicking. Are you saying it's tolerable to kick a guy in the head? Would you be wetting your pants so much if it was a video of a man getting kicked in the head?
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Hoklanie



Joined: 22 May 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the video I saw, she wasn't crawling under the bus to enter a restricted area.....she got knocked down, THEN the policeman kicked her head a few times, and then she crawled under the bus for safety.

That policeman has been suspended and the police are going to apologize to her and her family.
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Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
Lekker wrote:

Kicking women in the head is intolerable and I hope he gets it far worse and he probably will.. I can only think about my sisters or my mother when watching that video.


Your use of the term "women" here is quite strongly implying that you think kicking a woman in the head is somehow exceptional in the world of head kicking. Are you saying it's tolerable to kick a guy in the head? Would you be wetting your pants so much if it was a video of a man getting kicked in the head?


Okay, now think for a minute if you can. One woman, three male cops. They pulled her down backwards by her hair as she was trying to grab something to keep her from falling down backwards, her head hit the cement, then they proceeded to stomp on her head wearing boots. And yes, if it were a man, I would find it to be somewhat disturbing, but not as disturbing as this right here. She is a woman. A petite woman who poses no harm to anyone. She is smaller and weaker than men. Three police officers, well trained to kick the shit out of people, did exactly what they have been trained to do, to her. If you look really closely, you can see her glasses fly off her face under the bus when he kicks her in the head. That wasn't a love tap. Why do people keep taking the side of the cops here?

Yes, there were some real geniuses there, as you know, this is Korea, where people don't really have a lot of common sense at times, but this is just senseless. The police officer clearly knew she was weaker than he was, and when there were more protesters coming towards him, more protesters who posed a greater risk than the woman he dominated, he went right for her and kicked the piss out of her. His ass was recorded, then he turns to the camera and brushes it aside. I hope he gets pummeled. This issue isn't about beef. It's about the government neglecting the voice of the country they supposedly manage. Yeah, it's annoying and redundant to keep talking about beef beef beef, it's stupid, but the government needs to train their police more efficiently. Shows how half assed things here are run.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lekker wrote:
Scotticus wrote:
Lekker wrote:

Kicking women in the head is intolerable and I hope he gets it far worse and he probably will.. I can only think about my sisters or my mother when watching that video.


Your use of the term "women" here is quite strongly implying that you think kicking a woman in the head is somehow exceptional in the world of head kicking. Are you saying it's tolerable to kick a guy in the head? Would you be wetting your pants so much if it was a video of a man getting kicked in the head?


Why do people keep taking the side of the cops here?


How did you graduate from college? I thought the RoK cracked down on folks with the diploma mill paperwork.

Where, anywhere, did I say I was taking the cops' side? Hell, for all your blustering and righteous indignation, I'm actually taking your argument further by saying it's not okay to kick ANYONE in the head.

How, you dumb shit (you've taken this to name-calling, so I may as well, too), would it be any better if the person they were kicking was a man? You said yourself, three guys on one woman. Do you think if it was three guys on one man it would have been any different? Were all the men in the crowd Bruce-fucking-Lee?

Go back to school and learn some 1) critical thinking skills, and 2) reading comprehension. THEN come back to this argument.
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Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright Scottanus. You should get a girfriend instead of sitting in front of a computer trying to berate people. You must have a lot of time on your hands. Rigteous indignation my ass. You can suck a fat one.
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Stormy



Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the people that are saying it was a 'heat of the moment' thing, don't you find it interesting that a cop was in control enough to realise there was someone with a camera recording that specific action & ask them to turn it off? I think that negates the poor innocent threatened cop-on the defensive theory.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lekker wrote:
She is a woman. A petite woman who poses no harm to anyone.

How do you know she posed no harm? In a riot, especially one turning violent, you treat EVERYONE as if they are a threat. You don't know what kind of weapons they have or don't have on them.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She crawled under the bus for safety. That's obvious. I am angry that the news was reporting she had brain damage. What a load of crap. From that? It was hardly even a kick!

A student of mine told me some Koreans are saying the online media is out-of-control posting outright lies in an attempt to influence opinion. They claim that president Noh removed gov't restrictions/controls on websites, and now they're free to print whatever lies they can think up.

In any case, JungnoGuru, I don't disagree with you when you say that the people at groundzero weren't likely there by accident. I was speaking in general terms about people going to these rallys.
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PBRstreetgang21



Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Location: Orlando, FL--- serving as man's paean to medocrity since 1971!

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I dont understand is why the police need to be assualting these people water cannons. I had the misfortune of getting swept up in one of the protests last week on my way back from Kyobo (my fault-- next a I see a large group Ill avoid the urge to "check it out"). Regardless it didnt seem that bad. They werent being violent, just obnoxious. From what Im reading the protesters arent the ones getting out of hand, its the cops. Why cant these people just assemble in front of the embassy or whever they want and yell and scream till they're blue in the face? Beating the shit out of them for no real reason, is not only contrary to the principles of free speech--- it motivates them all the more.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lekker wrote:
Alright Scottanus. You should get a girfriend instead of sitting in front of a computer trying to berate people. You must have a lot of time on your hands. Rigteous indignation my ass. You can suck a fat one.


Personal attacks, check.
"Girlfriend" insults, check.
Reference to penises, check.
Conventiently avoiding the corner you painted yourself into, check.

Ding, ding, ding, we have ourselves a winner, folks!
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Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
Lekker wrote:
Alright Scottanus. You should get a girfriend instead of sitting in front of a computer trying to berate people. You must have a lot of time on your hands. Rigteous indignation my ass. You can suck a fat one.


Personal attacks, check.
"Girlfriend" insults, check.
Reference to penises, check.
Conventiently avoiding the corner you painted yourself into, check.

Ding, ding, ding, we have ourselves a winner, folks!


You're really having the time of your life, aren't ya.
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Kimbop



Joined: 31 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope that dumb broad had decent health insurance!

Perhaps the question "do you attend riots?" should be on these idiots' insurance applications to determine their premiums!
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