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toong tao daeng



Joined: 18 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: University Benefits Package Reply with quote

I have been offered a teaching position at a Korean govt. university, but have some questions about the benefits package on offer. I'm currently not in Korea and don't have any experience with universities there, and am wondering what is a "standard" package for university positions.

I see that most (if not all) hogwan jobs include RT airfare and 1 month bonus for every year worked.....is this true for govt. universities too?
What should I expect regarding health care, housing, utilities, visa fees, etc...
Are govt. university teachers eligible for the pension reimbursement?

Is there anything else that is considered "standard"?


Thanks.

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bookemdanno



Joined: 30 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you be teaching in a language institute or as part of the English department faculty? What are your educational credentials? How many hours will you teach? What kinds of courses?

Enrollment in the national pension plan is required, as is reimbursement at the end of your contract.

Housing is not but any decent university ought to provide it, at least 16 pyeong space.

Health benefits are also obligatory with a standard deductible for doctor visits, etc.
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toong tao daeng



Joined: 18 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bookemdanno wrote:
Will you be teaching in a language institute or as part of the English department faculty? What are your educational credentials? How many hours will you teach? What kinds of courses?

Thanks for your reply.

I'll be a faculty member in their English department.
I have an MA TESL, and have been told that I'll be teaching 9hrs /week...should I make sure this is stipulated in my contract?
My understanding is that I'll be teaching conversation, writing, and grammar.

Any insights on airfare, bonus, and visa assistance?
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bookemdanno



Joined: 30 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP:

They should reimburse you for airfare unless they're one of those cheap Korean universities.

They should provide you with visa assistance, too. Generally, you need a doctorate to qualify for an E-1 Visa, which is what I have and is harder to come by but allows you to avoid the hassles associated with the much more common E-2 visa (see stickies on the Job Forum).

Not sure what you mean by bonus but some provide an end-of-contract bonus.

What about housing? Is it subsidized or provided? If they give you an allowance, it shouldn't be deducted from your salary.

Get your hours in writing and make sure the contract doesn't include a clause about teaching kiddie camps during winter or summer intercession, or some lame intensive English course for non-English majors.

I'm surprised that they're letting you teach grammar as most East Asian faculty arrogantly believe they understand our grammar and mechanics better.

Nine hours is a light load, if indeed you don't have hidden hours. Check on the office hours requirement, though. Oh, and make sure you're expected to have the same teaching load next term, too.

You should have a contact person in the department in addition to their foreign affairs office--someone who will push the latter when it needs pushing, which is often except at top universities.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many departmental jobs don't pay for your flight, and this includes some of the biggest Korean universities.

Many universities don't provide housing. Either they'll pay more, or include a housing support allotment.

Don't sweat office hours. Most 'require' 2-4 hours per week, but these are not enforced. If they start checking whether or not you're in your office, you know you've screwed up! Besides, who doesn't have enough work to keep them in their office a few hours a week?

9 hours? Get that in writing! Most MA instructors carry at least a 12 hour load, but they aren't expected to publish.

Visa help? Most departments are clueless about the process, or have maybe one 'go-to' person who can help. Good luck.
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Zaria32



Joined: 04 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's fairly common for Korean Universities to either be exempt from various laws (for example, they can have a private pension scheme) or
ignore the application of laws to them.

Airfare is a maybe, so is housing or a housing allowance, so are most every benefit. Get it in writing, in the contract, spelled out in clear words.
Korean contracts often have confusing stuff in them, such as "2,400,000 annual salary will be paid monthly."

Whatever you do, don't assume that because something "is the law" that it will be provided to you if it's not in the contract.
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kiwiana



Joined: 29 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HERE'S the deal that most universities over here provide their faculty (not the faculty that teaches in a private institute under the university umbrella):

Pension:

This is either public or private. If it is public and you are not from the US, Canada, or Auzzy, then you are not entitiled to any lump sum benefit upon finishing over here.

Severance/ (bonus pay)

If universities provide a pension program they are not obliged to pay the severance at the completion of your contract (according to the Korean law book). Also, it is not common for university teachers, in positions such as yours, to receive a severance payment, although Korea National University (KNU) is one uni that does in fact provide this.

Health Insurance:

This should be paid 50/50 by you and your employer.

Return Airfare

It is also very uncommon for universities to pay for a return ticket to your home country each year, although I do know that KNU does so after the completion of the second year.

It is common for a hagwon (private institute) to pay for pension, severance, 50% health, return aifare each year but rest assured that the benefits at a uni far outweigh the benefits at a hagwon. I.e., far lower working hours, far more paid vacation, and often a higher salary if overtime is available at the uni.

Send me a private message if you have any more specific questions.
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toong tao daeng



Joined: 18 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all of your replies. Smile

Kiwiana,

I don't have the minimum post count to send a PM, but will try to have enough by the end of the weekend.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also been noticing that many universities are offering 9-12 hour scheds with a lot of 'mandatory overtime'. Don't forget that when your severance is calculated, it should be based on your total income from the institution, which includes housing allotment and overtime.

There are two ways to figure out your severance. one based on a monthly average, and one based on your income over your last three months. If they don't know this, keep it to yourself or you'll find your last three months to be kept at a bare minimum.

SNU was taken to the labour board over this issue, and they lost.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

E-1 Status (Professors), Visa Issuance Procedure
from the website of the Immigration Bureau, Ministry of Justice, Republic of Korea
http://www.moj.go.kr/HP/ENG/eng_03/eng_306030.jsp
Quote:
*In the case of a national or a public University, a foreigner is not permitted to be a full-time professor.

Two Thousand Two Hundred Sixty-eight Non-tenure Track Professors on the Edge
Donga.com (October 18, 2006)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2006101884668
Quote:
Regular professors work about 6 - 9 hours a week,....
There are 2,268 non-tenure track professors working in 104 universities, including the ones appointed in 2003. The average teaching time is 10.9 hours a week, which is relatively more than regular professors, but they are paid only 79.3 percent on average compared to regular professors. However, this result is calculated based on basic pay, and it is known to be only half if considering an actual pay including allowances.... Only 64.4 percent of the universities provide their non-tenure track professors with research funds, and 58.7 percent allow them to attend faculty meetings
.


College Professor (Humanities): Annual Average Wage: 64,770,000 won
http://know.work.go.kr/know/sub4/result_0.asp?search_code=04111&search_name=인문계열교수

Foreign scholars merit equal status
The foreign professor -- colleague or hired hand?
John B. Kotch, JoongAng Ilbo (June 14, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200206/14/200206142349223599900090109011.html
New URL: http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=1904927
Quote:
By contrast, permanent foreign professors number only a handful compared to the legions of Korean professors at foreign universities, but they do most of the heavy lifting in terms of course loads, devoting themselves almost exclusively to teaching. Nevertheless, they tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure. They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc. Moreover, when hundreds of Korean scholars enjoy such perks at American and other foreign universities, something is obviously amiss....
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bookemdanno



Joined: 30 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zara wrote:

Quote:
It's fairly common for Korean Universities to either be exempt from various laws (for example, they can have a private pension scheme) or
ignore the application of laws to them.

Airfare is a maybe, so is housing or a housing allowance, so are most every benefit. Get it in writing, in the contract, spelled out in clear words.
Korean contracts often have confusing stuff in them, such as "2,400,000 annual salary will be paid monthly."

Whatever you do, don't assume that because something "is the law" that it will be provided to you if it's not in the contract.


In other words, don't trust Korean administrators to do the right thing--ever.
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971menu



Joined: 11 Dec 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:45 am    Post subject: How common is it for university to pay no airfare at all? Reply with quote

kiwiana wrote:

Return Airfare

It is also very uncommon for universities to pay for a return ticket to your home country each year, although I do know that KNU does so after the completion of the second year.


Thanks for this post, kiwiana. I've just landed my first uni gig, and I was looking over the contract. I noticed that there was no mention of airfare.

I've taught hagwons and public school, and always had airfare, so this was a surprise. I presume that if return airfare isn't necessarily offered, then visa run airfare or reimbursement won't necessarily be offered either?

What I'm specifically wondering is whether i've been given some sort of newbie contract, where if I don't ask they don't give, or whether every FT at this uni is getting roughly the same deal, all things (qualifications, experience, etc) considered? Maybe I'm being paranoid. Getting on Dave's sometimes does that to me.

Another way of asking this...should I let airfare go (i'd love visa run reimbursement) and sign the contract, or should I bring it up and see what they say? Probably better to avoid looking like a greedy nitpicker, I suppose. Yes, that's it. I'm being paranoid. Forget it. I'll ask a different question.

How common is it for universities to NOT pay any airfare at all, including one-way, round-trip, visa run or other? I mean, out of 10, how many WOULD offer some kind of airfare?
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aka Dave



Joined: 02 May 2008
Location: Down by the river

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My university (private) is hiring a 2nd professor to teach in our English Ed dept. They will almost always hire someone living in Korea, simply so they can face to face interview them, so I can't address the plane ticket issue.

If you're teaching just a few hours, I would warn you about teaching the writing classes. If the students like you, they will start giving you more classes. This will become crucial when it comes time for the Korean English Teacher exam. If you're not teaching prospective teachers, you don't need to worry about that.

If you *are* teaching prospective teachers, you can easily be overwhelmed with work. It's a very competitive test, and you will be a huge resource for them.

Really, if you want to not work a lot, just stick to conversation. If you start doing a lot of writing classes you'll spend a lot of time correcting papers.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had mentioned this in another thread, but I'll say it here again. It seem to me that universities are moving away from providing housing for teachers to housing allowances.

They should provide health insurance and pay into your pension.

Someone had mentioned about severence not being common. At both the university I worked at previously and the current one, severence is paid at the end of the contract.
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lawyertood



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul, Incheon and the World--working undercover for the MOJ

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is extremely rare for a university to pay air fare.
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