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Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Come Saturday, Hillary Clinton will be out of the race.

crusher_of_heads · Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject:

Bill would have made a great president.

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

I do not know how to select an answer here. But I think she stayed in the race for as long as she believed she could win the nomination. So I voted "the right time."

Adventurer · Joined: 28 Jan 2006

I was borderline on saying the right time, because I don't think it damaged Obama. It gave him some practice, so he can face McCain.
However, Clinton did appear to be hypocritical with how she wanted Michigan and Florida treated. I don't like how people brought up her gender. I oppose her because of the comment about supposedly coming under sniper fire, the thing about Michigan and Florida was a major turn off, and she acted as if like she was entitled to the presidency almost. At least, that's the impression I got.

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

It's later than I thought it should have been, but not FAR too late. That's saying too much. It's too early to tell if any damage was done and if so, if it is irrepairable.

I lost a significant amount of the respect I had for both her and Bill during this process and I'm sorry that happened.

I started out the year supporting one of the other candidates and have been waiting for the rest of the Party to select which of the two front-runners would be the nominee. Obama is the choice and I'll support him. I'm hoping to get inspired by him. It would be fun to experience the feelings I had in '68 with McCarthy. So far, I haven't been able to feel that way about Obama. But I'm willing to try.

MissSeoul · Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in America

She never believed that black man can steal her show, so it took a long time to give up Laughing

saw6436 · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, ROK

Just glad she is gone. Hope she crawls back under her rock and stays there.

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

It appears Hillary's reputation is dinged, but one can imagine a primary in which she could have suffered more.

Source

Interestingly enough, it appears the damage to Obama's reputation, even if it could be laid fully upon Hillary and her campaign, only sets him back to February '08 levels (back when there were other, perhaps more promising, candidates still in the race). Obama crested in time for the important primaries, and came back to roughly the same point Hillary did.

Of course, this infographic only shows the views of those identifying as Democrats. I would wager Hillary suffers more now than before among those identifying as Independents.

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Where will Clinton be this time next year, I wonder?

Should Obama lose, she can say, without expressly saying it, of course, "I told you so." Should he win, with or without her, what then?

The Bobster · Joined: 15 Jan 2003

caniff · Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map

Without Bill standing in the corner, I'd say it's a no-brainer. She's on the ticket.

With Bill? He's the 800 pound gorilla in the room moistening up his cigar. And he's developed a penchant for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

Obama is rightfully concerned.

bassexpander · Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

I plan to vote for Obama, but if he picks Hillary as a running mate, I probably won't.

A lot of other people feel the same.

In the end, her supporters are going to vote Obama to make sure a republican doesn't win office, anyway. He stands to lose a lot of crossover people like me if he chooses Hillary to be his 2nd.

She is that disliked.

Shredd · Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: Pusan, South Korea

I thought you meant like out of the closet out.

Big_Bird · Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject:

agentX · Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province

It depends on who you ask, Big Bird.

Some might say it's because she
a) stuck with her cheatin' hubby
b) voted for the war and didn't apologize for the vote
c) ran her campaign the way that she did
d) said all those untrue and divisive comments on the campaign trail (re: Bosnian sniper-gate)
e) all the things that happened prior to and during her time in the White House
f) was a target of the right-wing smear machine for so many years that people have begun to believe some of the lies (re: Vince Foster)
g) got portrayed as a ball-busting feminist by some in the media, among other stereotypes. Instead of fighting those stereotypes she wound up confirming a few of them.

Will Obama choose Clinton? Hard to say...because her campaign has been sending out too many mixed messages. They told Howard Fineman one thing (Clinton wants the offer but will turn it down and doesn't want another woman on the ticket either) and told other reporters other things (she wants in, she wants a Cabinet position, she wants the Supreme Court, she wants Mars...etc). I heard Mrs. Obama said no way to her, but I doubt he's just going to rely on her opinion alone.

Bassexpander does have a point. Recent polls have shown that a Obama-Clinton ticket gains more supporters than it loses, but those losses are significant.

With the way McCain's running his campaign (today's headline "New Gang of 14 won�t back McCain ") Obama could have The Rock as his running mate and still win.

Obama/Rock 08 Change you can lay the smackdown with!
Rock: The Rock says this! Vote for Obama or the Rock will give you the Rock Bottom and the People's Elbow!