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Since appearance is important, is being overweight an issue?
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mmarshalynne



Joined: 23 May 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Since appearance is important, is being overweight an issue? Reply with quote

I've sent my headshot photograph, and I have job offers. I am concerned that being overweight might have an impact on how an employer treats me when I arrive. I read a blog by a guy who indicated that because he was overweight he wasn't even treated like a human being in South Korea. Is being overweight a big issue? Will my employer he unhappy when they pick me up at the airport? I'm 5'7" and a size 16 for all those girls out there who know what that means. Thanks for any honest input out there.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well appearance is important in Korea. Fat girls? There are practically no Korean girls that are fat. One of the things I really miss about the place. Koreans are very vain. Very. They spent ALOT of time beautifying themselves in front of hand mirrors. Korean female teachers often do it at their desks. It's an obsession.

There are many western women over here though that are fat. Wouldn't like to be in their shoes but I guess they learn to have thick skin. Probably just the same as at home.

So I guess you need to get some thick skin but don't let anyone put you down. Who knows after a diet of bibimpap and all that you'll be skinny as the natives.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It matters, but it also depends on how you handle it, too. If you can let things roll off you, you'll be okay. Once the kids get to know you, it won't really matter.

I believe that it has a greater impact on how you are treated off the job. In public situations, Koreans can be vicious towards anyone who is not exactly like the "norm." They're bad about saying hateful things to other Koreans (Korean woman will tell teen girls things like-"You'll never get married because you are fat").
The drunk Koreans are always bad, too. Just wanted you to know what to expect.
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ckub



Joined: 28 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my school, children think I'm really strong cause my arms are a bigger than all korean women. They laugh about it, but not in a mean way! No problem with my school at all! When I'm out in the street or subway, people stare, but they will stare just because you're a foreigner anyway. So stare back, and they'll stop looking at you! Thick skin is indeed needed, but if you're really looking forward to come, it shouldn't stop you.
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Zaria32



Joined: 04 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although the near vegetarian diet of South Korea has slimmed me down some, I was chunkier than you probably are when I came here. No on has ever said a word to me about it, nor indicated in any way that it's a problem, in or out of class, in or out of school.
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Stormy



Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Zaria, no-one has ever called me fat but I've slimmed down some thanks to a healthy diet & my hike to school each day & everyone comments on that - in a positive way.
If people comment on my appearance at all it's just to tell me I'm beautiful (which is just code for 'different') and they keep telling me I have beautiful hair & eyes (brown hair & hazel eyes - very boring). Mind you I'm the first foreigner at my school, and the only foreigner that many people in town have ever seen so I'm told. I'm setting the bar here! Very Happy
I live in a rural area though, I can imagine that, like back home, people in the bigger cities can be a little less sensitive.
Bsically if you're a bigger size than Kate Moss you will look & feel fat here.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how it is with women teachers, but children don't insult me maliciously.
They tease me good-naturedly, though.
Between classes, they pat me on the tummy.
Then I chase them and pat THEM on the tummy.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can honestly say that i get very little hassle for my wieght. although it might be becuase A: I mind my own bisness, B: Korean skills are crap and C: Walk around with a pissed off look on my face 79% of the time. Whatever the reason, it's never been an issuse for me here.
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Stormy



Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
I can honestly say that i get very little hassle for my wieght. although it might be becuase A: I mind my own bisness, B: Korean skills are crap and C: Walk around with a pissed off look on my face 79% of the time. Whatever the reason, it's never been an issuse for me here.


If your pissed off look is anything like your avatar I can understand that.
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loose_ends



Joined: 23 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry. There are plenty of over weight foreigners already here. Koreans are getting used to it. The difference is that when a westerner thinks, "you are fat", they usually keep it to themselves. Koreans tend to say it out load. It is ok though because you can talk about their appearances too.

When I first arrived I had a bought of acne I hadn't experienced since high school. Almost every Korean I knew was rather concerned and had no problems pointing and openly talking about it as if it were the first time they had seen someone with acne (Koreans are very prone to the nasty stuff too).

In the end, you'll have to get used to openly talking about your weight in public and certainly in the classroom. It can either be a character builder or self-esteem destroyer. I guess it's your choice how you want to deal with it.
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ckub wrote:
At my school, children think I'm really strong cause my arms are a bigger than all korean women.


A squirrel has thicker arms than most Korean women. How can they pick anything up with those toothpick-arms?

As a man who is about 165 pounds, I felt fat in Korea! The men have very narrow waists and no butts. Okay, that sounded kind of gay. Just saying, it's easy to become self-conscious about your body over there. God knows I wouldn't be caught dead in a public bath-house.

Setting aside the issue of being stared at or insulted and made fun of, Korea is a country (like most of Asia?) that is designed for skinny, small people. The typical (traditional) restaurant has tables very low to the ground and you sit on the ground while eating. There's a minimal amount of leg-space under there. It's uncomfortable for your average-sized Westerner but if you're a big-legged, hefty, husky, big-boned person (okay I've run out of euphamisms for "fat") you're gonna have a heck of a time in such situations.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirFink wrote:
God knows I wouldn't be caught dead in a public bath-house.



I wouldn't either. Why does anyone need to go to a bath house anyway? I have my own shower. I think my tattoos might raise an eyebrow or two there as well Laughing .
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safeblad



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A korean said I was fat yesterday. I am 5 10'' and 77 kilograms Rolling Eyes
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loose_ends



Joined: 23 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

safeblad wrote:
A korean said I was fat yesterday. I am 5 10'' and 77 kilograms Rolling Eyes


If you are a guy, you could get away with not being labeled fat. The Korean was over critical.

However if you are a girl the double standard kicks in and you are a little fat.

Get to the gym fatty!!!! Laughing
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of you have had better experiences than most. I'm NOT fat- I workout- and I hear crap from random Koreans in Seoul on a regular basis.
Koreans have told me horror stories of Korean women walking up to fragile teens and screaming at them about being fat or unattractive. They can be vicious.
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