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Who killed Barack Obama?
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
bacasper wrote:

You are reading way too much into things here. They are mere subtle suggestions, food for thought. Nothing more.


What, in this paragraph

Quote:
I know that an Israeli designed the T-shirt. I know that Israel would be safer without Iran, so that getting the US to take out Iran would be even better for them. I know that our intelligence has said that Islamic terrorists will try to kill Obama.


am I supposed to consider? There is no subtlety here. Its a cackhanded attempt to make a connection, any connection you can think of.

Why is the sentence is italics in this paragraph?

If you are unable to consider the possible scenario I outlined, even if only remotely possible, I'm sorry.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From an earlier discussion with Ya I can tell you he doesn't believe in any real conspiracies.
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JMO



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
JMO wrote:
bacasper wrote:

You are reading way too much into things here. They are mere subtle suggestions, food for thought. Nothing more.


What, in this paragraph

Quote:
I know that an Israeli designed the T-shirt. I know that Israel would be safer without Iran, so that getting the US to take out Iran would be even better for them. I know that our intelligence has said that Islamic terrorists will try to kill Obama.


am I supposed to consider? There is no subtlety here. Its a cackhanded attempt to make a connection, any connection you can think of.

Why is the sentence in italics in this paragraph?

If you are unable to consider the possible scenario I outlined, even if only remotely possible, I'm sorry.


I've bolded the question. I'm judging by your inability to answer this question, that you have no argument. I only wish there was still signatures, because that goes down as one of the all time ridiculous paragraphs in dave's history.

Really.. israeli t shirt designers to islamic terrorists is a real insight into how your mind works.
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
There doesn't appear to be an interview at the link provided. :cry:

From an earlier discussion with ba I can tell you he doesn't believe there is a difference between a real conspiracy and a conspiracy theory.


It is there now:

should work
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read the thread again. What the hell. Isn't there one thread for conspiracy stuff?
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mises



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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
From an earlier discussion with Ya I can tell you he doesn't believe in any real conspiracies.


I bet he believes in the conspiracy by OBL to fly planes into some buildings in NYC & DC.
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regicide



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
From an earlier discussion with Ya I can tell you he doesn't believe in any real conspiracies.


bacasper wrote:
From an earlier discussion with Ya I can tell you he doesn't believe in any real conspiracies.


According to this reviewer:

"When everyone agrees on what needs to happen there is no conspiracy."




http://portinexile.blogspot.com/2008/03/jfk-and-unspeakable-orbis-books-4308.html




Interesting comment in the blog:

1 comments:

rusty said...
in 1963 america was looking forward to a total of 24 years worth of kennedys in the white house.

lyndon johnson, richard nixon, ronald reagan and, yes, even george bush sr. DID NOT LIKE THE LOOKS OF THAT.

when everyone agrees on what needs to happen there is no conspiracy.

June 6, 2008 1:44 AM
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There has already been a suspicious lapse in Obama's security. In Dallas, there was none.

mises wrote:
If the Secret Service has been successful in keeping the most hated man on earth alive and well (less the pretzel incident) for the past 7.5 years, I'm sure they will be more than able to handle whatever wackos might want to take a shot at Obama. He will be safe.


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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I bet he believes in the conspiracy by OBL to fly planes into some buildings in NYC & DC.


Yep.

But
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rusty said...
in 1963 america was looking forward to a total of 24 years worth of kennedys in the white house.

lyndon johnson, richard nixon, ronald reagan and, yes, even george bush sr. DID NOT LIKE THE LOOKS OF THAT.

when everyone agrees on what needs to happen there is no conspiracy.



Nope.
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regicide



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obama's August acceptance speech:

My fellow Democrats:

With high resolve and deep gratitude, I accept your nomination. It has been a long campaign -- too long, too expensive, with too much media attention on matters irrelevant to our nation�s future. I salute each of my worthy opponents for conducting a clean fifty-state campaign focusing on the real issues facing our nation, including health care, the public debt burden, energy independence, and national security, a campaign testing not merely which of us could raise and spend the most money but who among us could best lead our country; a campaign not ignoring controversial issues like taxation, immigration, fuel conservation, and the Middle East, but conducting, in essence, a great debate -- because our party, unlike our opposition, believes that a free country is strengthened by debate.


[Second, this redeployment shall be only the first step in a comprehensive regional economic and diplomatic stabilization plan for the entire Middle East, building a just and enduring peace between Israel and Palestine, halting the killing and maiming of innocent civilians on both sides, and establishing two independent sovereign states, each behind peacefully negotiated and mutually recognized borders.]

Full speech here.

http://americanrhetoric.com/speeches/tedsorenson2008dnchopeful.htm

( by Ted Sorenson, JFK's speechwriter and alleged ghost writer of "Profiles in Courage". )


Ted Sorenson

2008 Democratic Party Presidential Nominee Acceptance Address

"The New Vision"

delivered sometime between August 25-28 2008, Denver, CO
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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I bet he believes in the conspiracy by OBL to fly planes into some buildings in NYC & DC.


Yep.

It is not surprising that once again Ya-ta misconstrues the meaning of "conspiracy" as he also did when attempting to understand the term "conspiracy theory."

It takes more than one person to be a "conspiracy."

FYI, a real conspiracy is when multiple people plot something; a conspiracy theory is a hypothesis that multiple people plot something. But there is no point in arguing with someone who refuses to use standard dictionary definitions, or at least agree upon them.
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moved to 911 thread. Embarassed

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bacasper



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
So I guess no one's interested in hearing about or from

Timothy McNiven.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=timothy+mcniven

Back in '76, plans to crash planes into tall buildings, using boxcutters ....hmm.


But of course Condi assured us all that no one could have envisioned these kind of attacks.

I guess there's nothing to see here folks.

Yeah, I know. Condi could also rent a movie once in a while.

There are a lot of links on that page. Could you please summarize it for us? (You may want to post it on the Official 9/11 Thread [if you can find it]).
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moved to 911 thread. Embarassed
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regicide



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Who killed Barack Obama? Reply with quote

This article appeared in the Daily Mail a couple of weeks ago:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...in_page_id=1770

British Nobel Prize winner Doris Lessing caused uproar last night by predicting the assassination of Barack Obama if he becomes the first black U.S. president.

The 88-year-old novelist's remarks came as the Democratic candidate toasted the most successful day in his White House campaign.

Mr Obama, the 46-year-old son of a black Kenyan man and a white American, dismissed Mrs Lessing's comments.

Miss Lessing said: "He would probably not last long, a black man in the position of president. They would kill him."

She said it would be better if Mrs Clinton, 60, became America's first woman president with Obama as her running mate.

"Hillary is a very sharp lady. It might be calmer if she wins," she told a Swedish newspaper.

But one Democratic analyst said: "Suggesting Obama is in danger if he wins the election in November is not only divisive, it is insulting to the American people."

Princeton University political science professor-Melissa Harris-Lacewell raised assassination fears last month, saying: "For many black supporters, there is a lot of anxiety that he will be killed. It is on people's minds.

"You can't make a prediction like this - like he has a 50 per cent chance of getting shot.

"But the greater his visibility and the greater his access to people, there is a danger."

Last month, TV host Harry Smith caused an outcry, asking Ted Kennedy, brother of assassinated President John F. Kennedy: "Sometimes agents of change end up being targets. Doesn't it make you at all fearful?"

Black presidential candidate Jesse Jackson received death threats during his campaigns in the Eighties and former Secretary of State Colin Powell ruled out a White House run after his wife feared he would be killed.
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