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driftingfocus



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: crazy follow-up on sickday post Reply with quote

Okay, so on Monday I posted about feeling bad about taking a sick day, despite the fact that I could barely get out of bed, and the fact that I already teach at 7 schools, which is more than I was told I would (and I have never complained about this to any of my administrators). Well, today I still wasn't feeling great, so I took a second day. They had taken me to the clinic late last night, but the medicine hadn't really kicked in yet. I still have somewhat of a fever, and standing or moving very much makes me very tired and sweaty within a few minutes. So, no teaching today.

Well, on Tuesdays, I teach at one school until 1:30, then come back to my Office of Education and teach a 3 hour workshop from 2-5 for the other Korean ESL teachers at the other middle schools. Around 1:45 today I get a call from my supervisor asking if I could come teach the workshop. I say that no, she said earlier in the day that I could take a second sick day, that I didn't feel up to leaving my apartment, much less standing in front of a class for 3 hours. Well, she ended up pressuring me into letting the 4 teachers come to my apartment, and be taught there, saying "If you can talk but don't want to stand, you can teach at your apartment while you are laying in bed." Shocked I balked at first, but in the interests of showing that I'm not being totally lazy and that I'm trying to work with them on their needs and my needs, I agreed. So I just spent a little under 3 hours teaching other ESL teachers IN MY APARTMENT, while I lay in bed, sweating from a low fever.

If my school ever balks at me asking them for a favor, I am SO going to bring this up.


(original post: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=125185)
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pecan



Joined: 01 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

-Nut
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Stormy



Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch. This is not an auspicious beginning to your job. If they're pulling that crap now & you acqueisced they're just gonna keep piling more & more on you I'd imagine.
It's hard when you're new & want to be co-operative but you've got to learn to say no! Hopefully they'll all catch your germs & get sick themselves.
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driftingfocus



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stormy wrote:
Ouch. This is not an auspicious beginning to your job. If they're pulling that crap now & you acqueisced they're just gonna keep piling more & more on you I'd imagine.
It's hard when you're new & want to be co-operative but you've got to learn to say no! Hopefully they'll all catch your germs & get sick themselves.


Part of the problem is that my supervisor speaks minimal English, and so it's often hard to get the concept of *why* I'm saying no to something across to her. And often, when I do, she pretends to know even less English than she does. So, in both cases, I have no idea what to do.

Advice?
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Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to explain why you are saying no. Especially when they already know "why". They saw you being sick at the clinic, and had the doctor confirm you were sick. If that was my supervisor, I would have hung up on her.

I hope they aren't actually counting that as a sickday.
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driftingfocus



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
You don't have to explain why you are saying no. Especially when they already know "why". They saw you being sick at the clinic, and had the doctor confirm you were sick. If that was my supervisor, I would have hung up on her.

I hope they aren't actually counting that as a sickday.


I was speaking more in general, but yeah, it applies to today as well. Just getting her to give me the day at all was tricky. She seemed to not really understand why I'd need another day, since I went to the doctor, but I eventually just switched from saying "I think I need to stay home another day." to "Thank you for letting me stay home another day.", giving her no real option but to say "Okay", due to her limited English skills.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only in Korea...
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alinkorea



Joined: 02 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You taught a class from your bed!
You have got to be joking. That is one of the most stupid things I've heard in quite a while. That your supervisor had the audacity to ask is unbelievable. That you are weak enough to agree is mind-boggling
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must have felt like the "ENGLISH PATIENT", literally....
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Ramen



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you let them do that to you? Why?!
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: crazy follow-up on sickday post Reply with quote

[quote="driftingfocus"] So I just spent a little under 3 hours teaching other ESL teachers IN MY APARTMENT, while I lay in bed, sweating from a low fever.

quote]


This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Learn to say NO, and then leave it at that. If not for your own sake, for all of ours, especially the poor sod who will eventually come after you. "Oh, but driftingfocus teacher used to teach every day.."

You are a teacher, not some chained bear in a circus to be poked and prodded at will for the benefit of your masters.

And your supervisor/co-tchr does not need to know why. Do they ever tell you the 'why' of their decisions, other than something like "it is Korean way"? They need a blasting, and the sooner the better or else you're going to get walked on all year.
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driftingfocus



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Re: crazy follow-up on sickday post Reply with quote

xtchr wrote:
driftingfocus wrote:
So I just spent a little under 3 hours teaching other ESL teachers IN MY APARTMENT, while I lay in bed, sweating from a low fever.




This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Learn to say NO, and then leave it at that. If not for your own sake, for all of ours, especially the poor sod who will eventually come after you. "Oh, but driftingfocus teacher used to teach every day.."

You are a teacher, not some chained bear in a circus to be poked and prodded at will for the benefit of your masters.

And your supervisor/co-tchr does not need to know why. Do they ever tell you the 'why' of their decisions, other than something like "it is Korean way"? They need a blasting, and the sooner the better or else you're going to get walked on all year.



I do frequently say no, but my supervisor then pretends not to understand, and will do whatever it is anyway. I've discovered that it's easier to just try and compromise. This was our compromise, as she wanted me to come to the school to teach the workshop, since "not all the teachers had been told I was sick". I told her that no, I was staying at my apartment today, and that's when she suggested the teaching from bed. I tried to say no, and she just said "They come help you, you talk to them." . I said that I didn't need help, that I had food, etc, and so she just continued to say the same thing over and over, so eventually I just said "okay" just to shut her up.


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driftingfocus



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddycakes wrote:
You must have felt like the "ENGLISH PATIENT", literally....


Pretty much.
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Dodgy Al



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would your supervisor have taught a class in that manner? Absolutely not. And yet she expects you to. She has no respect for you. Quit. Now.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddycakes wrote:
You must have felt like the "ENGLISH PATIENT", literally....


Haha. I hope you sent a lot of contagious spittle their way. Teachers down!
Talk about living in each other's pockets. Truly bizarre. Memory for a lifetime.
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