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Does your school reward you for helping to recruit?

 
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Ed Provencher



Joined: 15 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Does your school reward you for helping to recruit? Reply with quote

My old school offers 1 million won to any teacher who gets another teacher to sign a contract and stay for at least six months.

My new school just offered me 300,000 won just to get new teachers to sign a contract. I'm tempted to help, but I may ask for 1 million won.

Are there similar deals you've encountered?
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the Gepik contract pays 100K to the leaving teacher, who notified the new teacher of the vacancy.
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My view is that if you do not replace yrself then benefits such as severance are in jeopardy. Conversely, if you are successful at finding a replacement, then you are guaranteed these things.

Once I did receive 300 000 despite not having asked for anything. Unfortunately, 300 000 was deducted b/c I had to miss one working day and weekend, in order to keep within the bounds of the roundtrip ticket. . I just gave a sardonic smile. I had arrived the year before on a Saturday but only the Monday was recognised as a start.
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DongtanTony



Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently receive 500,000 per new body...this is also a contracted amount written up in an addendum to the original contract because of two subsequent promotions.

I figure the majority of recruiters are between 800,000 to 1,200,000...and since I'm only working for one school...a little discount is in order. The employer should have some benefit using individual teachers, and not an actual recruiting agency IMO.
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Chris_Dixon



Joined: 09 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my hakwon gives 500,000 but as recruiter fees are going up so is our cut, 750,000 from now on i think...

i should get out and advertise as it really isnt a bad school
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raclos234



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Location: korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

had about 2 months left on my contract and for seollal decided to go to australia to visit a friend. told my boss and then she asked me how much the trip was and paid for it. they said it was 'incentive'. of course an incentive to say.

anyways, about a month later i recruited my replacement and told me boss id come back after 3 months back home. didnt ask for or wanted anything b/c having them pay for my trip was pretty cool to me.
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calling Wylies99. Calling Wylies99.

We have a blatant violation of Korean law. These teachers (assuming they are E2) are violating their visas. They are accepting recruiting fees.

Calling Wylies99.

My school doesn't pay us much but allows us to build the recruiting fee into the incoming teacher/friend's salary.
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DongtanTony



Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...unfortunately I can't access the Korean Immigration website at the moment...but I would love your explanation...VirginIslander...as to why this is illegal.

I'm not teaching outside of my institution...this type of activity has been sanctioned...as well as contracted...by my employer.

This is the performance of an additional job duty...some people create textbooks...there's currently a thread about a teacher receiving a stipend for such...and posters claiming royalties fees...additional job duties for additional pay.

I would love to see the immigration language on this.....if I am wrong....I will stand corrected. But I would love to see the evidence first....and I would rather you call ttompatz...even though we haven't always seen eye-to-eye...rather than wylies99...as I consider ttom a more reliable source.
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mountainous



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is often suggested to "speak to current teachers" about a job/school to get the inside scoop. Now it seems that a fellow teacher might not be a reliable source of negative information...given that the teacher/recruiter has the same incentives to misrepresent as a recruiter does.
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mountainous wrote:
It is often suggested to "speak to current teachers" about a job/school to get the inside scoop. Now it seems that a fellow teacher might not be a reliable source of negative information...given that the teacher/recruiter has the same incentives to misrepresent as a recruiter does.

I think this has always been the case. Even if the current teacher doesn't have a positive incentive (headhunter's fee) to misrepresent, he/she may well have a negative incentive (threat of 11th-month termination, etc.). The director or manager may insist on monitoring communications between the current teacher and prospective recruits, further stifling frank communication.

The best bet is probably to seek the opinions of FORMER teachers: if the school is willing to give contact info for former teachers (and you're able to verify that they're real, not shills), that would seem like a good sign. Posting here is also an option, though you may be more likely to get unreasonably negative responses�the Internet being the Internet.
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would love to see the immigration language on this.....if I am wrong....I will stand corrected. But I would love to see the evidence first....and I would rather you call ttompatz...even though we haven't always seen eye-to-eye...rather than wylies99...as I consider ttom a more reliable source.


You missed the joke, but I guess its of an inside nature. Several months ago I tried to bring a teacher to my school but then a poster--I wont give names---PMed me and told me I was violating my E2 visa.

So I kindly responded

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Dont assume everybody knows the rules because you know the rules. I'm relatively new to the country so I don't know what is legit and whats not.

For example, I still dont know if its illegal to tell friends back home about openings at my school. Is that recruiting? If I inform my sister about a job, is that recruiting? If my mother comes in works with me because there is an opening at my school, is that recruiting?

If you would like to meet some time to educate me on Korean laws, I can arrange a time and a place here in Busan. Or, would that be a form of tutoring and a violation of your visa?

Thanks in advace and have a great day.


He responded that I know that I am breaking the law and that I have to be responsible for the consequences of my unlawful actions. However, I didn't know the law then and to this day, I still dont know which specific law I broke. Still waiting for clarification. Still waiting.

I've heard several times that in order to recruit one needs a recruiting license, so that might be the law.

Tthompatz99, the floor is yours.
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