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kenbear



Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Location: SK

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: British Criminal Check Reply with quote

Apologies if this has been done a few times, i looked but couldn't find it. Does anyone know how i can get a criminal check( England) for my visa online? after a search i found sites to getting one if you are Scottish which wasn't much use.

Cheers.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to be Scottish to use BD - It covers the whole of the UK and immigration accepted my copy anyway - you should be allright using BD.
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pjmancktelow



Joined: 07 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can get it done from you local police station for �10, you have to phone your local police HQ, any police station can give you the number. they want photocopies of your passport plus other documents, i used my driving licence. it takes about 40 days though.

once you have this you need to get it legalised, this can be done at the foreign office, it costs �27 per document see this link

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/about-the-fco/what-we-do/docs-and-legal-services/legalisation/

you can take it in yourself and it takes a few hours, you can get a copy of a degree done as well though your need to get this notarised by a solicitor, there is one nearby that charges �10 and takes ten minutes, they willl give you a map.

you dont need to actually go to the office itself, you can send the documents by post or if you are in a hurry you can send someone on your behalf, lots of motorbike couriers were doing this when i went. dont have any worries about this not being accepted by the korean immigration, im here now and all is fine and this is exactly how i went through it.

oh and if you want an extra copy of the criminal check, just say so on the phone, another �10, i liked having 2.
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kenbear



Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Location: SK

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers for that, i was planning on getting it sorted when i was back in the UK but i now need to get it all done before i leave korea to come back again. does anyone have the actual site where you can apply for it?

cheers,
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pjmancktelow



Joined: 07 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure about a website, but i suspect you could fax or send scans of the documents to the police HQ, you could call from skype or other method, or just google you counties police website and email them. you are after a "subject access request". basically your asking for your information, under the data protection act that is held on the Police National Computer. if you private message me your email, i can send a scanned copy of my one to you to show you what you get, they are all the same and come from new scotland yard in london, it just you have to apply via you own police HQ
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doc_ido



Joined: 03 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't a central site where you can apply for your SAR - like pjmancktelow said, it has to be done through your local constabulary. You should check their website first, as they ought to have a downloadable form which you can print and fill in. You then need to return the form with your payment and they'll process it.

I can only definitely speak for my local constabulary (West Yorkshire Police) - I completed the form online and on paper, and sent it with my payment (UK cheques and postal orders only, so you may have to get your folks to lend you �10). They sent the SAR to my Korean address, which was handy.
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kenbear



Joined: 14 Mar 2008
Location: SK

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pjmancktelow and doc_ido thanks guys, great advice. i can't pm sorry but with the start points you've given me think i should be sorted.

Thanks Again!

KB
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Matman



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's say some dude was once arrested on a silly criminal damage issue that never came to court, would that show up on the SAR of the local police? The SAR isn't the same as a criminal record check. I believe the police keep a record of arrests. What about if you've been a victim of crime. I imagine there may be things in the SAR that you wouldn't want an employer to see, even if you have no convictions.

It seems to me that the Disclosure Scotland website is better because issues like that wouldn't arise. As long as you have a clean criminal record, that's what the disclosure would report.
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Matman



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It strikes me that the �20 Basic Disclosure Online service from Disclosure Scotland would be perfect for everyone. Unless you want to save �10 by going through your local police, that's the one to go for.
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doc_ido



Joined: 03 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matman:

The enhanced/standard CRB is specifically for employment vetting purposes, but I think it's only valid for employment within the UK. I had an enhanced CRB before I came to Korea, and they still wanted the "police check" done.

The SAR is a record of all information held about you in you local force's computer and/or the Police National Computer. As for your issue:

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A subject access request to the Police National Computer for instance will either provide a certificate stating that there is currently no information held about you on the police national computer, or it will provide a list of all information held on the computer including all convictions regardless of whether they are spent or not and intelligence matters including not guilty verdicts, cautions, reprimands, final warnings, No Further Action decisions and fixed penalty notices for disorder.


You'll have to decide whether anything will show or not. Wink
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matman wrote:
It strikes me that the �20 Basic Disclosure Online service from Disclosure Scotland would be perfect for everyone. Unless you want to save �10 by going through your local police, that's the one to go for.


It is not available from every police force - I tried that through Merseyside police. I went to my local police station and they gave me a number that basically said that subject access check was the only check available from them.

I said 'all I want is the local police check - the one that cots 10 quid' Merseyside police do not offer that service, and if they don't do it I'm sure other police forces don't do it either - some may do but if your local police force doesn't then disclosure scotland is a good way to go.
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Matman



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

doc_ido wrote:
Matman:

The enhanced/standard CRB is specifically for employment vetting purposes, but I think it's only valid for employment within the UK. I had an enhanced CRB before I came to Korea, and they still wanted the "police check" done.

The SAR is a record of all information held about you in you local force's computer and/or the Police National Computer. As for your issue:

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A subject access request to the Police National Computer for instance will either provide a certificate stating that there is currently no information held about you on the police national computer, or it will provide a list of all information held on the computer including all convictions regardless of whether they are spent or not and intelligence matters including not guilty verdicts, cautions, reprimands, final warnings, No Further Action decisions and fixed penalty notices for disorder.


You'll have to decide whether anything will show or not. Wink


A No Further Action decision would show. In spite of having a clean criminal record, it looks a bit dodgy for the uninformed. In spite of what you say about the CRB, I've never heard of anyone not being able to get a visa with a Disclosure Scotland BD.
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Matman



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bejarano-korea wrote:
Matman wrote:
It strikes me that the �20 Basic Disclosure Online service from Disclosure Scotland would be perfect for everyone. Unless you want to save �10 by going through your local police, that's the one to go for.


It is not available from every police force - I tried that through Merseyside police. I went to my local police station and they gave me a number that basically said that subject access check was the only check available from them.

I said 'all I want is the local police check - the one that cots 10 quid' Merseyside police do not offer that service, and if they don't do it I'm sure other police forces don't do it either - some may do but if your local police force doesn't then disclosure scotland is a good way to go.


It isn't a service it's their legal obligation under the Data Protection Act. You just have to ask for the right thing:

http://www.merseyside.police.uk/html/support/personal-info/index.htm
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bejarano-korea wrote:
Matman wrote:
It strikes me that the �20 Basic Disclosure Online service from Disclosure Scotland would be perfect for everyone. Unless you want to save �10 by going through your local police, that's the one to go for.


It is not available from every police force - I tried that through Merseyside police. I went to my local police station and they gave me a number that basically said that subject access check was the only check available from them.

I said 'all I want is the local police check - the one that cots 10 quid' Merseyside police do not offer that service, and if they don't do it I'm sure other police forces don't do it either - some may do but if your local police force doesn't then disclosure scotland is a good way to go.


You can get it through Merseyside police - I have got it previously.
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pjmancktelow



Joined: 07 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in regards to certain police forces not allowing SARs, they have to under the data protection act, you have the write to seek information held about yourself, this is basically what you are asking for on the police national computer, so all forces should do it to comply with the law

in regards to the criminal damage, an arrest woudl most likely show up, but any allegations that resulted in an "no further action" would not. ive had several NFA's and they didnt show up, though ive never been arrested.
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