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4 months left
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: White Noise Machines |
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| I will have to get early and want to get a white noise machine. Does anyone have any rec's? Can you get them in Korea? I doubt you can the way Koreans can sleep through anything. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| if all else fails, you can detune a radio, to the space in between a station, and that should help somewhat |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: White Noise Machines |
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| 4 months left wrote: |
| I will have to get early and want to get a white noise machine. Does anyone have any rec's? Can you get them in Korea? I doubt you can the way Koreans can sleep through anything. |
yeah, buy a fan. Instant "white noise". |
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4 months left
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Not so good in the winter tho. |
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WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, man! If only I could have something to help me sleep. I keep waking up in the middle of the night and then can't get back to sleep. I still stay in bed with my eyes closed praying that I will dose off. When my alarm goes off, I'm usually still awake anyway - but I could cry when I actually have to get out of bed at 06:30 and get ready for work.
Last night I went to bed about 10:30, and woke up at 02:20. Didn't sleep a wink after that. This is happening night after night, and it's really getting me down. I'm not doing my best to prepare for classes at school because I'm so shattered.
Any tips. I don't drink coffee in the evenings BTW. |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: White Noise Machines |
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| 4 months left wrote: |
| I will have to get early and want to get a white noise machine. Does anyone have any rec's? Can you get them in Korea? |
Yeah, they're called wives.
Kidding! |
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JJJ
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Get some earplugs. Been using them for years. It's the only way I have been getting more than 4 hours of sleep/night in Asia. |
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bovinerebel
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| WoBW wrote: |
Oh, man! If only I could have something to help me sleep. I keep waking up in the middle of the night and then can't get back to sleep. I still stay in bed with my eyes closed praying that I will dose off. When my alarm goes off, I'm usually still awake anyway - but I could cry when I actually have to get out of bed at 06:30 and get ready for work.
Last night I went to bed about 10:30, and woke up at 02:20. Didn't sleep a wink after that. This is happening night after night, and it's really getting me down. I'm not doing my best to prepare for classes at school because I'm so shattered.
Any tips. I don't drink coffee in the evenings BTW. |
Sleeping pills ?
I've gone through the same thing. The anxiety of not sleeping feeds the whole thing , and as the time you have to work comes , the anxiety increases. Although now I've become quite reliant on the pills , I've cut down the dose to half. I still only manage to sleep from about 1 -7am. I cut down the coffee during the day entirely and replaced with green tea which has a lesser dose of caffiene and so many health benefits. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| For me, what's always worked is a radio set on low volume. Never tried a white noise machine, TV is too bright and prone to volume changes, but a classical cd on repeat, or the radio usually helps me sleep through to the alarm |
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4 months left
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| JJJ wrote: |
| Get some earplugs. Been using them for years. It's the only way I have been getting more than 4 hours of sleep/night in Asia. |
I can't sleep with earplugs...listening to the sound of my heartbeat is worse and paranoid that I won't wake up to the alarm or an emergency.
Best White Noise Sound Machines
http://hubpages.com/hub/Best-White-Noise-Sound-Machines
Interesting article - How much sleep is ideal?
Sleep is one of the richest topics in science today: why we need it, why it can be hard to get, and how that affects everything from our athletic performance to our income. Daniel Kripke, co-director of research at the Scripps Clinic Sleep Center in La Jolla, Calif., has looked at the most important question of all. In 2002, he compared death rates among more than 1 million American adults who, as part of a study on cancer prevention, reported their average nightly amount of sleep. To many his results were surprising, but they've since been corroborated by similar studies in Europe and East Asia. Kripke explains.
Q: How much sleep is ideal?
A: Studies show that people who sleep between 6.5 hours and 7.5 hours a night, as they report, live the longest. And people who sleep 8 hours or more, or less than 6.5 hours, they don't live quite as long. There is just as much risk associated with sleeping too long as with sleeping too short. The big surprise is that long sleep seems to start at 8 hours. Sleeping 8.5 hours might really be a little worse than sleeping five.
Morbidity, [or sickness,] is also "U-shaped," in the sense that both very short sleep and very long sleep are associated with many illnesses - with depression, with obesity, and therefore with heart disease and so forth. But the [ideal amount of sleep] for different health measures isn't all in the same place. Most of the "low points" are at seven or eight hours, but there are some at six and some even at nine. I think diabetes is lowest in seven-hour sleepers, [for example]. But these measures aren't as clear as the mortality data.
I think we can speculate [about why people who sleep 6.5 to 7.5 hours live longer], but we have to admit that we don't really understand the reasons. We don't really know yet what is cause and what is effect. So we don't know if a short sleeper can live longer by extending their sleep, and we don't know if a long sleeper can live longer by setting the alarm clock a bit earlier. We're hoping to organize tests of those questions.
One of the reasons I like to publicize these facts is that I think we can prevent a lot of insomnia and distress just by telling people that short sleep is OK. We've all been told you ought to sleep eight hours, but there was never any evidence. A very common problem we see at sleep clinics is people who spend too long in bed. They think they should sleep eight hours or nine hours, so they spend eight or nine hours in bed, with the result that they have trouble falling asleep and they wake up a lot during the night. Oddly enough, a lot of the problem [of insomnia] is lying in bed awake worrying about it. There have been many controlled studies in the United States, Great Britain and other parts of Europe that show that an insomnia treatment that involves getting out of bed when you're not sleepy, and restricting your time in bed, actually helps people to sleep more. They get over their fear of the bed. They get over the worry, and they become confident that when they go to bed they will sleep. So spending less time in bed actually makes sleep better. It is in fact a more powerful and effective long-term treatment for insomnia than sleeping pills. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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I can make some white noise.
;ORC file
sr = 44100
kr = 4410
ksmps = 10
nchnls = 2
instr 1
iamp = ampdb(p4)
a2 rand 10000
a1 oscil iamp, a2+10001, 1
outs a1, a1
endin
;end ORC file
;SCO file
f1 0 65537 10 1
r5 nn
i1 0 60 88
e
;end SCO file
If you turn these into two separate files with extensions .ORC and .SCO then compile them using CSound you'll get a sound file (WAV or whatever format you choose) that is five minutes of white noise (all audible frequencies at the same amplitude) |
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WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| WoBW wrote: |
Oh, man! If only I could have something to help me sleep. I keep waking up in the middle of the night and then can't get back to sleep. I still stay in bed with my eyes closed praying that I will dose off. When my alarm goes off, I'm usually still awake anyway - but I could cry when I actually have to get out of bed at 06:30 and get ready for work.
Last night I went to bed about 10:30, and woke up at 02:20. Didn't sleep a wink after that. This is happening night after night, and it's really getting me down. I'm not doing my best to prepare for classes at school because I'm so shattered.
Any tips. I don't drink coffee in the evenings BTW. |
Sleeping pills ?
I've gone through the same thing. The anxiety of not sleeping feeds the whole thing , and as the time you have to work comes , the anxiety increases. Although now I've become quite reliant on the pills , I've cut down the dose to half. I still only manage to sleep from about 1 -7am. I cut down the coffee during the day entirely and replaced with green tea which has a lesser dose of caffiene and so many health benefits. |
You are so right about the anxiety thing. I go to bed anxious that I won't sleep. Although I usually drop off okay, it's when I wake up at stupid o'clock that I lay there thinking "Oh, here we go again. Another night laying here awake for hours unable to get back to sleep."
I even sometimes start getting heart palpitations. I try not to look at the time, but I can sort of sense when the alarm will go off and start bracing myself for it. Although I'm awake anyway I can't stand having to get out of bed and face the day. It's horrible.
My place is quiet, and I wear a blindfold thingy - so it isn't noise or light that's the problem. I might try sleeping pills, but I don't want to become dependent on them. Also I worry that they'll knock me out so effectively that I'll sleep through the alarm and be late for work. Anyway, I might try them at weekends first to see how they affect me. Can you get them at a pharmacy here over the counter? |
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michael5799042
Joined: 16 Jan 2008
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| I downloaded a program that plays all different kinds of background noise. I forget what it was called- but it was freeware. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Shooter's hearing muffs, airport worker's hearing protector muffs, jackhammer/construction worker sound blocking earmuffs, whatever you want to call them they work, with earplugs as well for extra noise lockout. Little 'safety supplies shops' are around. That sell safety stuff for construction. Of course you'd sleep so soundly that someone could theoretically break into your house and kill you in your sleep, etc. but that's a chance you'll have to take. Good luck. |
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Stevie_B
Joined: 14 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| WoBW wrote: |
Oh, man! If only I could have something to help me sleep. I keep waking up in the middle of the night and then can't get back to sleep. I still stay in bed with my eyes closed praying that I will dose off. When my alarm goes off, I'm usually still awake anyway - but I could cry when I actually have to get out of bed at 06:30 and get ready for work.
Last night I went to bed about 10:30, and woke up at 02:20. Didn't sleep a wink after that. This is happening night after night, and it's really getting me down. I'm not doing my best to prepare for classes at school because I'm so shattered.
Any tips. I don't drink coffee in the evenings BTW. |
When you wake up, just get up and do something. Watch some telly or something. Otherwise you'll overthink trying to get back to sleep and you'll never manage it. Also, try having a big slug of soju before you return to bed. |
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