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I'm not a native speaker, can I still get a job?
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calimero



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:56 am    Post subject: I'm not a native speaker, can I still get a job? Reply with quote

Hi,

I've been teaching English in China for a year now, and now I'd like to teach in Korea.

But all the job postings ask for a native speaker, and I'm not. I'm Dutch.

My English is perfect, and I look European and representable.

I'd like to apply for a job online, get a work visa, and then fly to Korea. How do you judge my chances of success?
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UberJRI



Joined: 22 Apr 2008
Location: Not where I want to be...yet

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my understanding, the only people who can get visas to teach English in South Korea are those who hold passports from the U.S., Canada, Britain, New Zealand, and Australia (South Africa, too, maybe)--native English speaking countries. Also, you have to have a Bachelor's Degree from a native English speaking country. I'm pretty sure that you would not be able to get an E2 visa, but I'm certainly not the last word on this subject.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm not a native speaker, can I still get a job? Reply with quote

calimero wrote:
Hi,

I've been teaching English in China for a year now, and now I'd like to teach in Korea.

But all the job postings ask for a native speaker, and I'm not. I'm Dutch.

My English is perfect, and I look European and representable.

I'd like to apply for a job online, get a work visa, and then fly to Korea. How do you judge my chances of success?


Under the current rules you have a 0% chance of success.

The CURRENT rules (subject to change in September) state that in order to receive an E2 (work visa) a teacher of English MUST be a citizen / passport holder of: the USA, Canada, the UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand or the Republic of South Africa.

Until they change the immigration policy/requirements you can't get a visa.

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calimero



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW!

That's harsh!

Thank you for your replies.
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TOMODACHI-KID



Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Location: LAND OF THE RISING SUN: TAKASAGO-KATSUSHIKA

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

calimero wrote:
WOW!

That's harsh!

Thank you for your replies.



WOW!

That's the truth!

Thank you for trying.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Japan. Work for the public school system as an ALT. Way better than Korea, minus the headaches.
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Voyeur



Joined: 19 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding was that it wasn't about what country you are a citizen from, but rather where you got your undergraduate degree. I thought that unless you were Korean, you needed a bachelor's from a university that was in an English speaking country. Is that the case? Or is it your citizenship? Or both? Can a russian with a BA from Harvard and perfect English get an E-2?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voyeur wrote:
My understanding was that it wasn't about what country you are a citizen from, but rather where you got your undergraduate degree. I thought that unless you were Korean, you needed a bachelor's from a university that was in an English speaking country. Is that the case? Or is it your citizenship? Or both? Can a russian with a BA from Harvard and perfect English get an E-2?


Passport AND diploma with the exception of a Korean (F4) who has lived abroad for a few years.

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Chicoloco



Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Location: In the ring.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hold passports from the U.S., Canada, Britain, New Zealand, and Australia (South Africa, too, maybe)--native English speaking countries


True - they usually track down and kill any Irish people who apply.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm not a native speaker, can I still get a job? Reply with quote

calimero wrote:
Hi,

I've been teaching English in China for a year now, and now I'd like to teach in Korea.

But all the job postings ask for a native speaker, and I'm not. I'm Dutch.

My English is perfect, and I look European and representable.

I'd like to apply for a job online, get a work visa, and then fly to Korea. How do you judge my chances of success?


You can't teach English here unless you marry a Korean, but you could get a job teaching your native language. I know Japanese people teaching Japanese and two Spanish people teaching Spanish.

Maybe there's some demand for Dutch at a university. Seems unlikely but might be worth looking into.
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loose_ends



Joined: 23 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm not a native speaker, can I still get a job? Reply with quote

calimero wrote:
Hi,

I've been teaching English in China for a year now, and now I'd like to teach in Korea.

But all the job postings ask for a native speaker, and I'm not. I'm Dutch.

My English is perfect, and I look European and representable.

I'd like to apply for a job online, get a work visa, and then fly to Korea. How do you judge my chances of success?


I have a friend who is dutch. He speaks English as if he were from California. His only option is to teach on a tourist visa. It is illegal, and he may get caught one day, but he continues to do it.
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TOMODACHI-KID



Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Location: LAND OF THE RISING SUN: TAKASAGO-KATSUSHIKA

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm not a native speaker, can I still get a job? Reply with quote

[quote="cdninkorea"][quote="calimero"]Hi,

I've been teaching English in China for a year now, and now I'd like to teach in Korea.

But all the job postings ask for a native speaker, and I'm not. I'm Dutch.

My English is perfect, and I look European and representable.

I'd like to apply for a job online, get a work visa, and then fly to Korea. How do you judge my chances of success?

You can't teach English here unless you marry a Korean, but you could get a job teaching your native language. I know Japanese people teaching Japanese and two Spanish people teaching Spanish.

Maybe there's some demand for Dutch at a university. Seems unlikely but might be worth looking into.

Non-exsistent... Wink Supply and demand, not there--Dutch....

Love to learn the language myself, however.
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Toon Army



Joined: 12 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a 2 Danish guys teaching English but they have F visas (not sure if that still make it illegal though?)

Their English is perfect and their accent is American down to a tee.....even other Americans/Canadians never guess that they`re not native English speakers until they mention they`re Danes.......

Don`t know why but the Scandinavians seem to be able to make their accents flawless.......any other Brtis remember Jan Molby? (perfect Scouse accent), Kasper Schmeichal has the Manc accent down to a tee etc
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T-dot



Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toon Army wrote:
I know of a 2 Danish guys teaching English but they have F visas (not sure if that still make it illegal though?)

Their English is perfect and their accent is American down to a tee.....even other Americans/Canadians never guess that they`re not native English speakers until they mention they`re Danes.......

Don`t know why but the Scandinavians seem to be able to make their accents flawless.......any other Brtis remember Jan Molby? (perfect Scouse accent), Kasper Schmeichal has the Manc accent down to a tee etc


Danish guys are married to Koreans, so they dont need E-2 visas. They are better off with the F-2 visas.
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calimero



Joined: 10 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
Go to Japan. Work for the public school system as an ALT. Way better than Korea, minus the headaches.


Okay. I'll look into that. I thought I'd teach in Korea because I read it would be easier to get a job there.
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