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ovechkin
Joined: 03 May 2008
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 Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: runner |
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Hi,
If one pulls a runner, how likely is the school going to hire a lawyer and debt collector to pay back airfare? |
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Zaria32
Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| About as likely as me sprouting wings... |
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Zaria32
Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Having said that, they can notify immigration that you left owing them money...this might make another visa very difficult. |
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Ronald
Joined: 14 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: Running is funny |
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The government gives the school money for your airfare. The school has no jurisdiction if you will, over your running.
I think the government alots around $50,000 for each native speaker that includes Salary, housing, airfare. This is what I've heard anyways.
Obviously there's some situations like I was in last year where my school housed me on campus and I'm sure, pocketed some of the money for themselves.
By the way, you sure you need to go home?
Are you intested in another job or set on leaving Dynamic Korea?
Why are you considering running? I want to hear your story. |
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ovechkin
Joined: 03 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks for the reply ronald. I work in a hagwon, not a public school. I just wanted to know if i pull a runner, can they call a collection agency in my home country and get them to make me pay the airfare back. The sketchy director has been taking money off our cheques "to pay the government", but we just found out he's been keeping it for himself. When i got here, i wasnt even placed in the apartment or area i was promised to be in. Instead they throw me in a moldy box with no air cond. It has a bed though...i'm ready to head back...i can't trust anyone here... |
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thematrixiam
Joined: 31 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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just break the contract, get a letter of release, and find a new job.
if he doesn't give you the release letter, threaten to report him... mention his siphoning off on your money.
Feel free to bring in a tape recorder to add as an intimidation factor. Maybe dress extra formal for that day as well.
He'll likely be shitting his pants. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ovechkin wrote: |
| Instead they throw me in a moldy box with no air cond. |
If you think this is hot weather, just wait until later in the summer. Seriously.
Sounds like you better go. Good luck. Don't worry about a debt collector coming after you. Your boss won't do shit except hire another victim and stick him in the moldy box. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ovechkin wrote: |
| thanks for the reply ronald. I work in a hagwon, not a public school. I just wanted to know if i pull a runner, can they call a collection agency in my home country and get them to make me pay the airfare back. The sketchy director has been taking money off our cheques "to pay the government", but we just found out he's been keeping it for himself. When i got here, i wasnt even placed in the apartment or area i was promised to be in. Instead they throw me in a moldy box with no air cond. It has a bed though...i'm ready to head back...i can't trust anyone here... |
Dude, even if you went to Canada and you were from America, it would be hard for an American company to track you down. How the hell is a hagwon owner going to know the first thing about American collection agencies? If your boss has no business sense, don't give him more credit than that. Credit agencies only deal with American firms, and he would have to agree that they take part of the share. I know how you feel. In 2002, 90% of Korean teenagers said Korea is a corrupt society. Now, many Koreans are honest and good, but your chances of being screw*d as you just did is quite high, I am afraid.
There are other places in the world where you can teach English and run a much lower risk of being conned. Don't worry, son, just pack your stuff and go home. People do it all the time in your situation without any worries. |
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ovechkin
Joined: 03 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks guys. I will post the name of school and recruiter on here once i'm outta here. |
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Ronald
Joined: 14 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: Good |
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| If you decide to come back, check out a public Middle or High school. You'll be taken better care if there with more time and pay will be alway on time and full amount. |
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Lekker
Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| thematrixiam wrote: |
just break the contract, get a letter of release, and find a new job.
if he doesn't give you the release letter, threaten to report him... mention his siphoning off on your money.
Feel free to bring in a tape recorder to add as an intimidation factor. Maybe dress extra formal for that day as well.
He'll likely be shitting his pants. |
No, don't threaten him. Like Nike always says, just do it. He'll think twice next time, after he has a long and harrowing cry.
I'm all about the tape recorder idea. Do it, do it, do it. What's the worst he can do? Fire you? Hell beg you to stay with him in hopes you don't report him. Just do it, get a new job, new employer will situate the visa nonsense. Again, forget about this guy, leave him get a better job, work in a public school. Much nicer. |
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hauwande
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: gongju
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| ovechkin wrote: |
| Instead they throw me in a moldy box with no air cond. |
If you think this is hot weather, just wait until later in the summer. Seriously.
Sounds like you better go. Good luck. Don't worry about a debt collector coming after you. Your boss won't do shit except hire another victim and stick him in the moldy box. |
to all the people who think the korean summer is hot: it isn't.
it is warm.
go to taipei. or even more; north western australia. that is hot.
the second part i agree with entirely. the boss will do nothing whatsoever except find another... |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| hauwande wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| ovechkin wrote: |
| Instead they throw me in a moldy box with no air cond. |
If you think this is hot weather, just wait until later in the summer. Seriously.
Sounds like you better go. Good luck. Don't worry about a debt collector coming after you. Your boss won't do shit except hire another victim and stick him in the moldy box. |
to all the people who think the korean summer is hot: it isn't.
it is warm.
go to taipei. or even more; north western australia. that is hot.
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You're right, what was I thinking? That must not have been sweat last summer.
Canada... Canada's not cold in the winter time either. Antarctica, now that's cold.
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| ovechkin wrote: |
| thanks for the reply ronald. I work in a hagwon, not a public school. I just wanted to know if i pull a runner, can they call a collection agency in my home country and get them to make me pay the airfare back. The sketchy director has been taking money off our cheques "to pay the government", but we just found out he's been keeping it for himself. When i got here, i wasnt even placed in the apartment or area i was promised to be in. Instead they throw me in a moldy box with no air cond. It has a bed though...i'm ready to head back...i can't trust anyone here... |
They cannot call a collection agency in your home country - no jurisdiction.
They won't chase you (beyond perhaps a nasty e-mail or 2). Too expensive and not practical.
They MAY file a complaint with immigration that could delay or prevent you from obtaining employment in Korea in the future.
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hauwande
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: gongju
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| Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
| hauwande wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| ovechkin wrote: |
| Instead they throw me in a moldy box with no air cond. |
If you think this is hot weather, just wait until later in the summer. Seriously.
Sounds like you better go. Good luck. Don't worry about a debt collector coming after you. Your boss won't do shit except hire another victim and stick him in the moldy box. |
to all the people who think the korean summer is hot: it isn't.
it is warm.
go to taipei. or even more; north western australia. that is hot.
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You're right, what was I thinking? That must not have been sweat last summer.
Canada... Canada's not cold in the winter time either. Antarctica, now that's cold. |
ok, point taken!
i think the winter here is terrible - i hate the winter here. far too cold for me. |
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