Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Matt Lamers, Editor of Korea Herald's Expat Page, Stabbed!
Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 9, 10, 11  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Geckoman



Joined: 07 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Matt Lamers, Editor of Korea Herald's Expat Page, Stabbed! Reply with quote

Matt Lamers, the editor of The Korea Herald's "Expat Living" section, has been stabbed!

He is known on Dave's ESL Cafe by the username "KHerald."

Matt and another editor were viciously attacked by two Korean men at a park near Hongdae!

See the links below to learn more about this attack:

Gypsy Scholar: "Expat Still Living"
http://gypsyscholarship.blogspot.com/2008/06/expat-still-living.html

The Marmot's Hole: "Get Well Soon, Matt"
http://www.rjkoehler.com/2008/06/15/get-well-soon-matt/#comments

Lamers did not contact the police about the attack. Given his experience of writing stories about police not taking crimes against foreigners seriously, he decided not to contact the police about this attack, as he believes that filing a police report will not do any good.

If it had happened to me I would of contacted the police. I always recommend filing a police report. Even if the police do not take it seriously, at least there will be a record of the crime. Who knows, maybe the attacker is a serial attacker preying on foreigners. And if everyone who gets attacked by this guy files a police report, eventually a pattern will show, which might get the presses attention, which would lead to stories being done about this serial attacker preying on foreigners, and people would then be on the look out for him, and there would be pressure on the cops to catch him, and thus it would be more likely that they catch the evil doer. But none of that would happen if nobody filed a police report.

Never underestimate the importance of filing a police report. Always do it.

Matt (aka KHerald): Sorry to hear about what happened to you. I'm glad that the injury was not that serious (it could have been much worse). Hope you get better soon.

Cool


Last edited by Geckoman on Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:32 am; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would've beaten the little fkers to a pulp and dragged them to the police station by their hair.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kimchi_pizza



Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean Herald? Not surprising. I haven't read the actual
paper in some time but their online site is a little too leftest
for my tastes.

I think any and all subscribers should cancel their subscription
and read the International Heald Tribune or at least the Korea
Times.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/index.asp

http://www.iht.com/

(encourage your students to do the same)
http://engnews.joins.com/eng_news/main.asp

Hope ya get well and find a better paper to work for
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At any rate, that's pretty lame(rs).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea Stabling
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there was no police report filed, I don't believe it happened.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ginormousaurus



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pligganease wrote:
If there was no police report filed, I don't believe it happened.


It happened. A friend of mine knows him.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that - hope he gets better (and eventually comes around to filing a report).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's terrible. I hope Matt will be all right.

I've always felt fairly safe walking alone in Seoul at all hours, but I guess this is a wake-up call. Anything really can happen anywhere ...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
laconic2



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Wonderful World of ESL

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry but nothing positive is served by the victim not filing a police report. The excuse that "nothing will be done" just doesn't make sense in view of the nature of the assault and subsequent injury. Also, it permits the perps to walk away without even so much as adverse publicity being brought down on the crime.

Yes, it is normally considered a crime to stab another person. Rolling Eyes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Matt Lamers, Editor of Korea Herald's Expat Page, Stabbe Reply with quote

Geckoman wrote:


Lamers did not contact the police about the attack. Given his experience of writing stories about police not taking crimes against foreigners seriously, he decided not to contact the police about this attack, as he believes that filing a police report will not do any good.


I believe he should have immediately called the police and tried to lay charges on the Korean imbecile/lunatics....

even if the Korean police did not take the crime (against foreigners) seriously - at least the thugs would have been taken to the police station...

Nothing happened to the Korean thugs - so they may well chat to their friends and say "Hey - its ok to stab and try to kill foreigners - because the foreigners don't tell anyone - they don't tell the police" - so lets all go out and do it again...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
cisco kid



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: Outlaws had us pinned down at the fort

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I don't believe that happened. I've been here for 19 years and that never happened to me. Here's a clue, you're not in Kansas anymore - try to learn a little bit about the culture and stop pretending that you're still in the west where everything is superior and drop your superior way of thinking. Razz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RJjr



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pligganease wrote:
If there was no police report filed, I don't believe it happened.


Even when you report an assault to police in Seoul, they don't file a report.

laconic2 wrote:
I'm sorry but nothing positive is served by the victim not filing a police report. The excuse that "nothing will be done" just doesn't make sense in view of the nature of the assault and subsequent injury. Also, it permits the perps to walk away without even so much as adverse publicity being brought down on the crime.

Yes, it is normally considered a crime to stab another person. Rolling Eyes


Spoken like someone who has never reported an assault to the Seoul police.

Yesterday wrote:
I believe he should have immediately called the police and tried to lay charges on the Korean imbecile/lunatics....

even if the Korean police did not take the crime (against foreigners) seriously - at least the thugs would have been taken to the police station...


No, the thugs wouldn't have been taken to the police station. That's not how it works in Seoul.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Matt Lamers, Editor of Korea Herald's Expat Page, Stabbe Reply with quote

Yesterday wrote:


I believe he should have immediately called the police and tried to lay charges on the Korean imbecile/lunatics....

even if the Korean police did not take the crime (against foreigners) seriously - at least the thugs would have been taken to the police station...

Nothing happened to the Korean thugs - so they may well chat to their friends and say "Hey - its ok to stab and try to kill foreigners - because the foreigners don't tell anyone - they don't tell the police" - so lets all go out and do it again...


It's OK not to file a police report... as long as one employs "other means".
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether to file a report or not is Matt's call ... it's easy for a bunch of idiots on a message board to pass judgment, but it's not our place.

Last edited by Bramble on Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:33 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 9, 10, 11  Next
Page 1 of 11

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International