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[mises]

http://uk.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84561

[JMO]

If you believe in this, I have a once in a lifetime investment opportunity you might be interested in.

[mindmetoo]

I takes more energy to separate water into hydrogen and oxygen than you get from burning the hydrogen. Unless he's found an amazing way to break very strong chemical bonds with less energy that electrolysis it's just a pure scam.

[Lekker]

William Koontz wrote a story called Saucer, about a flying saucer discovered in the sand in Africa, that runs on water from your average garden hose, cracking the hydrogen molecules somehow. I thought it was interesting. Well here you go.

[bacasper]

Steam engine cars have been around for over a century:

TOURING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH

By R. H. JOHNSTON

[Originally published in the December, 1908 issue of TRAVEL MAGAZINE]

With the Grand Prize Race at Savannah engaging the attention of the automobile world, many tourists are now considering the possibilities of either traveling southward to the course by motor car, or of touring northward at their leisure after the race has been run. Furthermore, the season of the year is approaching when thousands of residents of the North invade the southland to escape the rigors of tne northern winter. Almost all of this class of travelers are owners of motor cars and many of them would make the trip in their machines if they were assured that the condition of the roads would permit. That the trip between North and South can be made by motor car is, of course, a matter of common knowledge, but very few articles have been published giving the exact data regarding the distances and road conditions which are encountered.



IN THE LAND WHERE "COTTON IS KING"

Many of the readers of TRAVEL MAGAZINE will remember my article in the May issue, wherein I described my tour from New York to Savannah. It will be recalled that the route which I covered at that tittle was by no means the most direct, but led by way of Gettysburg and Hagerstown and then eastward over the National Highway to Columbus, Ohio, thence southward by way of Cincinnati, Lexington, Louisville Nashville, Huntsville and Chattanooga to Atlanta. From Atlanta the route lay direct by way of Macon and Statesboro to Savannah. My idea at that time was not to travel by the shortest route but by that which offered the most interesting sights and scenes. In a previous tour of exploration I had traveled from Hagerstown down through the Shenandoah Valley by way of Winchester, Staunton, and Roanoke, Va. It recently occurred to me that, if I could map out a desirable route between Atlanta and Roanoke, I would then be able to supply my fellow tourists with complete data for touring by a direct route between New York and Savannah.



Starting away from Atlanta in our 30 horsepower steam machine, we proceeded via Law-renceville, Winder, Jefferson and Royston to Hartwell and six miles further on crossed the Savannah River into South Carolina by way of Brown's Ferry. The ferry is operated by the current in an ingenious manner, worthy of a few words of description. A cable is stretched from shore to shore, well above the level of the river, and the ferry-boat is connected by two chains to sheaves which run on the cable. By altering the relative length of the two chains, the angle of the ferry-boat to the stream is changed so that the current moves the boat in either direction which may be desired.

more at link

[mindmetoo]

Think you could make those images smaller?

Since I'm not inclined to scroll right and left to read about a car from 1908, I really have no idea about the relevance of a 100 year old car to the question whether or not hydrogen can be liberated from oxygen with less energy than you get burning it.

[bacasper]

[On the other hand]

[mindmetoo]

[bacasper]

[mindmetoo]

[Sleepy in Seoul]

[doc_ido]

There was talk a few months (maybe years even) ago about developing catalysts that made water splitting more energy-efficient - but to produce hydrogen at a useful rate they would need to be something pretty special.

In any case, water + electricity/catalysts -> hydrogen -> motive power is always going to be far less efficient than electricity -> motive power.

[Pluto]

The Video from MarketWatch.

[JustJohn]

H20 --unexplained reaction--> H20 + energy


Impressive. Wonder if they'll let us in on how they finally managed to trump the laws of thermodynamics.