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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: Footage of West Bank attack (Settlers attack elderly couple) |
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Footage of West Bank attack
Footage from a video camera handed out by an Israeli human rights group appears to show Jewish settlers beating up Palestinians in the West Bank.
An elderly shepherd, his wife and a nephew said they were attacked by four masked men for allowing their animals to graze near the settlement of Susia.
The rights group, B'Tselem, said the cameras were provided to enable Palestinians to get proof of attacks.
A spokesman for the Israeli police said that an investigation was under way.
So far, no-one has been arrested.
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For the past year, B'Tselem has handed out video cameras to Palestinians as part of its "Shooting Back" project.
The Palestinians said they were attacked after refusing to move
The BBC has been given exclusive access to the footage of this particular attack, which happened earlier this week. The date and time on the camera footage shows that it is Sunday afternoon.
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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This kind of thing has been going on regularly for the 40 years of the occupation. Settlers are almost never prosecuted for their violence. I've spoken to ex IDF soldiers who complain that they would witness attacks on helpless Palestinians, but that they are not allowed to intervene. The settlers know they practically have carte blanche. It's horrendous.
People wonder why so many Palestinians have become radicalised. And yet when you are aware of what they have suffered these past 4 decades, you find yourself surprised that they are not MORE extreme.
Absolutely horrible. Occupation is an ugly business. |
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doc_ido

Joined: 03 Sep 2007
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think the Shooting Back project (which gives cameras to farmers so they can record attacks and have some proof for the police) is a great initiative, but nothing's going to change until the international community forces Israel to obey international law and stop building on occupied land. I think the events of the past few decades have given Israel a bit of an untouchability complex - so expect a big tantrum prior to any two-state agreement. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: |
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The way things are going, there will be nothing left for a two state agreement. Israel is devouring it all. I will not be surprised, if when my children are grown, Israel finds herself being forced to contemplate a one state solution, after all.
I think this shoot back initiative could work very well, if only these altercations could be zoomed into living rooms of US citizens. This is the only audience in the world that currently matters. There might be less need then for US Presidents and presidential candidates to trip over themselves to eagerly prove their zionist credentials to their electorates. But it seems unlikely that this would be allowed. |
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manlyboy

Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
People wonder why so many Palestinians have become radicalised. And yet when you are aware of what they have suffered these past 4 decades, you find yourself surprised that they are not MORE extreme. |
People wonder why so many Jews have become radicalised. And yet when you are aware of what they have suffered these past 4 millennia, you find yourself surprised that they are not MORE extreme. |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: |
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manlyboy wrote: |
Big_Bird wrote: |
People wonder why so many Palestinians have become radicalised. And yet when you are aware of what they have suffered these past 4 decades, you find yourself surprised that they are not MORE extreme. |
People wonder why so many Jews have become radicalised. And yet when you are aware of what they have suffered these past 4 millennia, you find yourself surprised that they are not MORE extreme. |
Good job at ducking the original subject. |
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Zenas

Joined: 17 May 2008
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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manlyboy wrote: |
Big_Bird wrote: |
People wonder why so many Palestinians have become radicalised. And yet when you are aware of what they have suffered these past 4 decades, you find yourself surprised that they are not MORE extreme. |
People wonder why so many Jews have become radicalised. And yet when you are aware of what they have suffered these past 4 millennia, you find yourself surprised that they are not MORE extreme. |
Old Polish proverb:
"Jewish people, while hitting you, complain you hurt their hand."
"Oh, vey, oh vey, the persecution, the persecution."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7451691.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7451691.stm
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SirFink

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Whoever posted that video is an anti-Semite.  |
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deadman
Joined: 27 May 2006 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Fox Defends Airing Of When Jews Attack
LOS ANGELES�In the face of widespread public outcry, Fox TV executives spoke out Monday in defense of last week's airing of When Jews Attack.
The hour-long, Robert Urich-hosted show�which its detractors are decrying as "shock TV at its basest" and "a sickening appeal to voyeuristic, lowest-common denominator tendencies"�features explicit, uncensored video footage of enraged Jews violently striking out at others.
"For the next hour, what you will see you may find disturbing, even shocking," Urich said during the show's introduction. "But remember: The footage you are about to see is real."
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"Children should not be exposed to such violent footage," said Sharon Blaine, head of the San Francisco-based What About The Children? organization. "In this day and age, we should be above such trash TV."
"I do not want my child to feel that it is acceptable to resort to hitting, kicking and pinching her siblings, like the Jews she sees on television," concerned parent Sandra Hueber said.
While most of the program's critics are condemning its offensive content, others are objecting to the message it may send the nation's Jews.
"I fear that the televised glamorization of such attacks may wind up provoking America's already-volatile Jewish population into committing further acts of battery," said Anthony Rasmussen, director of the American Center For Media Studies.
In reaction to the show, Jewish groups are calling for a boycott of Fox.
"As a Jew, I am deeply offended by this program," said B'nai B'rith International president Milton Feig during a press conference to announce the boycott. "We must send a clear message to Fox that this sort of garbage will not be tolerated." He then flew into a berserk rage, hurling ceramic vases at reporters and swinging a folding chair wildly.
Footage of Feig's attack is scheduled to air April 8, in a second installment of the show.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29910 |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:24 am Post subject: |
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deadman wrote: |
Fox Defends Airing Of When Jews Attack
LOS ANGELES�In the face of widespread public outcry, Fox TV executives spoke out Monday in defense of last week's airing of When Jews Attack.
The hour-long, Robert Urich-hosted show�which its detractors are decrying as "shock TV at its basest" and "a sickening appeal to voyeuristic, lowest-common denominator tendencies"�features explicit, uncensored video footage of enraged Jews violently striking out at others.
"For the next hour, what you will see you may find disturbing, even shocking," Urich said during the show's introduction. "But remember: The footage you are about to see is real."
....
"Children should not be exposed to such violent footage," said Sharon Blaine, head of the San Francisco-based What About The Children? organization. "In this day and age, we should be above such trash TV."
"I do not want my child to feel that it is acceptable to resort to hitting, kicking and pinching her siblings, like the Jews she sees on television," concerned parent Sandra Hueber said.
While most of the program's critics are condemning its offensive content, others are objecting to the message it may send the nation's Jews.
"I fear that the televised glamorization of such attacks may wind up provoking America's already-volatile Jewish population into committing further acts of battery," said Anthony Rasmussen, director of the American Center For Media Studies.
In reaction to the show, Jewish groups are calling for a boycott of Fox.
"As a Jew, I am deeply offended by this program," said B'nai B'rith International president Milton Feig during a press conference to announce the boycott. "We must send a clear message to Fox that this sort of garbage will not be tolerated." He then flew into a berserk rage, hurling ceramic vases at reporters and swinging a folding chair wildly.
Footage of Feig's attack is scheduled to air April 8, in a second installment of the show.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29910 |
You wanna know the truly sad part about "Fox defends airing of When Jews Attack" is?
I had no idea it was a joke until the very, very end. LOL |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Footage of West Bank attack (Settlers attack elderly cou |
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Adventurer wrote: |
video camera handed out by an Israeli human rights group |
Well it wouldn't have been a "Palestinian Human rights group". |
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deadman
Joined: 27 May 2006 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Footage of West Bank attack (Settlers attack elderly cou |
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nautilus wrote: |
Adventurer wrote: |
video camera handed out by an Israeli human rights group |
Well it wouldn't have been a "Palestinian Human rights group". |
They've only got the exploding kind of camera. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Footage of West Bank attack (Settlers attack elderly cou |
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nautilus wrote: |
Adventurer wrote: |
video camera handed out by an Israeli human rights group |
Well it wouldn't have been a "Palestinian Human rights group". |
Actually, there are such Palestinian groups like ADALA, I believe which translates as law. So how do you know if there Palestinian human rights groups or not? Anyway, the Israeli Government would ignore them and so would Hamas or whatever. |
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postfundie

Joined: 28 May 2004
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: |
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And yet when you are aware of what they have suffered these past 4 decades, you find yourself surprised that they are not MORE extreme.
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what exactly would be more extreme than the Jew hate on Palestinian TV or sending suicide bombers into Pizza places to places or teaching children that the Jews came from apes? Yes I ask myself why the palestinian people have not become more radicalized.
: the thugs with sticks should be prosecuted. If the BBC story has it right, there is no excuse for such behavior on the part of the settlers. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:47 am Post subject: |
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there is no excuse for such behavior on the part of the settlers. |
Actually, the Israelis have the ultimate excuse. God promised them all this land, for ever, in their infallible book. Can't get a better excuse than that.
From Hitchens' God is not great
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An Israeli zealot named Dr Baruch Goldstein had come to [a cave in Hebron where Abraham murdered his son to show his love for God - popular tourist attraction for Jews, Christians and Muslims alike] and, unslinging the automatic weapon that he was allowed to carry, discharged it into the Muslim congregation. He killed 27 worshippers and injured countless others before being overwhelmed and beaten to death. It turned out that many people already knew Dr Goldstein was dangerous. While serving as a physician in the Israeli army he had announced that he would not treat non-Jewish patients, such as Israeli Arabs, especially on the Sabbath. As it happens, he was obeying rabbinic law in declining to do this, as many Israeli religious courts have confirmed, so an easy way to spot an inhumane killer was to notice that he was guided by a sincere and literal observance of the divine instruction. Shrines in his name have been set up ever since. |
And they, the theists, say we need God to be moral! hahaha! |
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