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What is the value of an online tefl/tesol course?

 
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mmarshalynne



Joined: 23 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: What is the value of an online tefl/tesol course? Reply with quote

What is the value either in the classroom or in finding employment if you obtain an online tefl/tesol certificate?
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Without it, I would be stuck at 2.2 in EPIK. Now that I have it, in the next two years, I can go up to 2.8.
-Other than that, I learned a lot about being a teacher. Knowing what to do in the classroom and knowing why you're doing it are two very different things.
-When tried and true didn't work in the classroom, I was lost. Now, with my TEFL, I have an idea of where to start looking to help myself.
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mmarshalynne



Joined: 23 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: online or classroom Reply with quote

Poet13,

Was it an online course or a classroom, and where did you get your certificate?
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a 100 hour course here in Korea. I did the additional 20 hour practical with a group of teachers also in Korea. I went through KEI TEFL. It's as rigorous as you want it to be. It can also be pretty quick. I worked hard on mine, and I feel I got real value from it. The support was very good too.

Just read another thread where there were apparently no email responses from KEI. I don't know. I can only suggest you try.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poet's spot on.

Depending on your previous level of "education" education, you might learn a lot or you might learn only a bit. Because my Ed courses at uni mostly focused on psychology and pedagogy, I actually did pick up a bit of useful info from the online course I did. If you have no Ed background whatsoever, and you take it fairly seriously, you should be able to pick up quite a bit of valuable information (and get your pay bumped up in the process).
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
I did a 100 hour course here in Korea. I did the additional 20 hour practical with a group of teachers also in Korea. I went through KEI TEFL. It's as rigorous as you want it to be. It can also be pretty quick. I worked hard on mine, and I feel I got real value from it. The support was very good too.

Just read another thread where there were apparently no email responses from KEI. I don't know. I can only suggest you try.


btw. I thought the "online" courses were not accepted or much regarded worldwide? (outside of Korea that is?)

or is that a misperception on my part?
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poet13



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about the rest of the world, but I do know, that in general, the perception of distance education is changing. At one time, not that long ago, distance education was regarded as a joke. Now, in the US, there are employers who encourage and sponsor their employees to take distance ed courses.
I think TEFL, because it is the least regulated of the certificates, has a long way to go in terms of legitimacy and being accepted at face value, but on the other hand, regular universities have the same problem. The CELTA program has for the most part, overcome this and is considered the gold standard in There's your Harvards, MIT's, and Oxfords, and then there are ....Korean universities. Ok, that was cheap shot. Let's just say, universities that perhpas should not be accredited.

This is just my opinion with a little reading behind it.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Online perception Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:

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btw. I thought the "online" courses were not accepted or much regarded worldwide? (outside of Korea that is?)

or is that a misperception on my part?


Two of the largest ESL-EFL training companies in the world both have online components. One of them ITTT boasts more than 15,000 students per year for their "online" (it is really email correspondence) program. The other, TEFL Int'l claims several thousand students each year for their online programs. Others like I - to - I and ITTO both claim to average around 12,000+ students each for their online programs, and I can assure you the people taking these courses are getting jobs Internationally.

The perception you may have is from the fact that people are not keeping up with technology advancements regarding educational alternatives. Online training is very viable as an option here in Korea or any other place in the world for that matter. Many of the big training companies in the USA and UK are moving rapidly towards online instruction for their ESL-EFL training simply because it is low overhead in terms of facility costs and other related expenses.

What is a shame that the whole of online education was supposed to be less expensive and higher in quality. In some cases this is untrue on both parts. You can find good and bad within the online training market. The companies that are working hard to provide quality instruction along with a seamless system are often lumped in as being non-professional and poor in quality. People have a choice, and that is what counts. Like poet13 said, any program you take can be "as rigorous as you want it to be." If you want to get as little as possible out of the investment you have made for any training, then that decision is yours. Online training is not for everyone, which others will attest to, but it IS reliable and efficient in giving people an additional option for taking their ESL-EFL training.
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retrogress



Joined: 07 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After 13 years teaching in Asia, I took an online TEFL course. It was a 140 hour course and I finished it in 10 hours. Though it was very basic, I couldn't help thinking: "If I had had this information when I started...", so I emailed the material to my brother who is starting a year with the JET program.

I found some of the tests laughably easy. You could even retake a 5 question multiple choice test after being shown the correct answers. But the tasks were well thought out and they made you learn and use what you learned.

As far as the online TEFL value, mine is getting me 200 bucks more a month from my elementary school job, and I only paid 300 bucks for the course. That's value if you ask me.
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teacherinseoul



Joined: 18 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many schools are just happy to have teachers with TESOL certificates and they don't particularly care whether it's done online or in-person.
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rumdiary



Joined: 05 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do any of these schools help out with job placement outside of Korea? I'm happy enough here now, but I'd like some options down the road.
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zuburi



Joined: 19 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any way you guys can say which online course you went with? There's quite a few, and I'd like to go with one I know somebody else has done.
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thomastucker69



Joined: 06 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: info wanted Reply with quote

I was looking online at KEI Tefl website and they have 2 programs.

One is 100 hours all online and costs 200 000 KRW.

The other on is 120 hours, with an on-site practicuum for 1 000 000KRW.
Would there be a big difference in the outcome as far as what potential employees would think? And does anyone know about the on-site visit, like what it involves?

ANy information would be great.

Thanks
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