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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: "Korean humor" and how to bridge language barrier? Reply with quote

I like to joke around and especially so in stuffy academic settings, where too often people take each other WAY too seriously (reminds me of Chevy Chase pretending to be a doctor.. where not knowing how to perform surgery, he just goes around and repeats Doctor.. Doctor.. with everyone acknowledging just waste time)

It's like that with Mr.. Mr... Mrs.. blah blah in academic settings.

anyways , my Korean PS isn't like that, thank god.....

but I find I still have to constrain my naturally "impish" personality because they just don't/won't get the joke.

for e.g.. I wrote about a petite Korean female teacher whacking the crap out of some students.. I started to say.. "when will it be my turn".. and she gave me a quizzical look - I quickly shut up and immediately instituted a strategic withdrawal.

With an American woman, you can say "spank ME please" and if she has ANY sense of humor, she'll at least smile and say "you wish", if not playing along some more. You can't/won't get that with a Korean.

Their "sense of humor" is something I don't quite understand -(that's where the language barrier comes in)

clearly double entendres, often a rich source of jocularity are off limits to non native speakers.. but with Koreans I also sense a cultural divide.. they just don't quite have the same sense of humor..

less "ribald" perhaps is the best way I can phrase it?
a product of their conservative and sexually repressed culture?

(though I notice they have some of those stupid "variety" shows they find hilarious (similar thing in Latin America) which I could never quite "understand" - they were just DUMB to me.

I did manage with a lot of effort to play a joke on the VP the other day... all day he was besieged with teacher after teacher with forms to look over and sign. After having taught him the phrase "when it rains it pours" the other day... I saw an opening.. and at the end of the day.. sauntered over to get in line behind some other teachers.. with a huge stack of papers and books (grabbbed everything I could and stacked it)

he saw me. sitting there with an impish smile. and asked "what are you doing"?

I responded that like the other teachers I also had some "documents" for him to look over and sign.. He got it... and started laughing... then explained to head female teacher.. she started laughing too.

anyways.. what are YOUR impressions of "Korean humor", lack thereof? and how to bridge the cultural divide?
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


yup, I should have listed "sarcasm" and "irony" as concepts they have difficulty with.
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.
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tanklor1



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Summer Wine wrote:
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Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.


I don't think so, Being from Eastern Canada we're born and bred to be sarcastic bastards.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Summer Wine wrote:
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Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.


maybe.. that's why I am curious what others think. The general level of English with teachers at my PS is very low. My handler's is the best, and she "gets" it better than most... now knowing I am probably "fucking with her" at least half the time.

it's not that they don't like to laugh... I find that they do (at least in my school), but I can't/haven't figured out what they find "funny" or laugh at.
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tanklor1



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bogey666 wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
Quote:
Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.


maybe.. that's why I am curious what others think. The general level of English with teachers at my PS is very low. My handler's is the best, and she "gets" it better than most... now knowing I am probably "fucking with her" at least half the time.

it's not that they don't like to laugh... I find that they do (at least in my school), but I can't/haven't figured out what they find "funny" or laugh at.


The only time that I got a good laugh was from a co-teacher. There was a Korean word that I couldn't read or find in a dictionary, I turned to her and asked: "Can you read Korean?" She was talking about it two days after the fact. I didn't see it all that funny.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
Quote:
Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.


I don't think so, Being from Eastern Canada we're born and inbred to be sarcastic bastards.


Fixed. Laughing

Hey, it's a thread on humor...

If you really want to make Koreans laugh, watch their watered-down version of SNL, the "Gag Concert" and few weeks in a row and try and catch a couple of the catch phrases/prat falls/slapstick routines that are repeated.

After selling my soul to the Devil I've always been able to use a few of these to knock 'em dead. Gotta keep up on them though, because like pop stars the gags die out after a month or so.
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tanklor1



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
tanklor1 wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
Quote:
Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.


I don't think so, Being from Eastern Canada we're born and inbred to be sarcastic bastards.


Fixed. Laughing

Hey, it's a thread on humor...

If you really want to make Koreans laugh, watch their watered-down version of SNL, the "Gag Concert" and few weeks in a row and try and catch a couple of the catch phrases/prat falls/slapstick routines that are repeated.

After selling my soul to the Devil I've always been able to use a few of these to knock 'em dead. Gotta keep up on them though, because like pop stars the gags die out after a month or so.


I remember watching that show last year and thinking "Where the *beep* is Wayne Brady?"
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
tanklor1 wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
Quote:
Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.


I don't think so, Being from Eastern Canada we're born and inbred to be sarcastic bastards.


Fixed. Laughing


No, only Prince Edward Island is inbred. It is free to go there, but it costs $40 to go back along the Confederation Bridge. The island is only so big, and before you know it, people get stuck and start admiring their cousins.
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tanklor1



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
seoulsucker wrote:
tanklor1 wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
Quote:
Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.


I don't think so, Being from Eastern Canada we're born and inbred to be sarcastic bastards.


Fixed. Laughing




No, only Prince Edward Island is inbred. It is free to go there, but it costs $40 to go back along the Confederation Bridge. The island is only so big, and before you know it, people get stuck and start admiring their cousins.


Yeah, but at least they have Green Gables and potatos.
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IncognitoHFX



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
IncognitoHFX wrote:
seoulsucker wrote:
tanklor1 wrote:
Summer Wine wrote:
Quote:
Most Koreans, hell most Teachers here, can't ge sarcasm for the life of them.


Maybe you are just bad at it.


I don't think so, Being from Eastern Canada we're born and inbred to be sarcastic bastards.


Fixed. Laughing




No, only Prince Edward Island is inbred. It is free to go there, but it costs $40 to go back along the Confederation Bridge. The island is only so big, and before you know it, people get stuck and start admiring their cousins.


Yeah, but at least they have Green Gables and potatos.


Good ole' six-fingered Anne! Shocked Laughing
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raclos234



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Location: korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have one k-teacher who lived in england for a time so her english isnt too bad. shes not the prettiest chick out there but has a fiesty attitude that can either attract u or push u the *beep* away.

anyways, we sorta had a running joke whenever we would give each other food or whatever by saying that its 'from my heart'. on one occasion after she gave me some food and said that saying, i wanted to tell her 'im touched.' but it came out 'i like to touch'. that was met by a big laugh.

next day she gave me more food, then asked 'how does it taste?' with a big smile on her face. i responded back with 'im taking my time in eating it'...she didnt get that one, oh well.

a couple minutes pass and then i say 'mmmmmmmmmmm'...she understands the connotation in that (at least i think she does) and another k-teacher hears whats going on and gets a giggle out of it.

i guess u gotta spell it out more to someone who doesnt speak ur native tongue.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judging by your avatar, your sense of humour needs some work too, OP.

How much of it is lack of a sense of homour, and how much is it a lack of Korean language ability?

And use your brain when it comes to sexual innuendo, double entendres etc. Leave them out, they already think we're sex-crazed perverts.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
Judging by your avatar, your sense of humour needs some work too, OP.

How much of it is lack of a sense of homour, and how much is it a lack of Korean language ability?

And use your brain when it comes to sexual innuendo, double entendres etc. Leave them out, they already think we're sex-crazed perverts.


lack of sense of humor? - I think mine's "fine"
lack of Korean language ability? - COMPLETE - hence I understand how I am at "fault" in that instance and I'd say that's probably the biggest obstacle.

a lot of the males that joke around with each other (out of earshot of females) have that deep kind of hehehe quality to it.. and my "male instincts" tell me those jokes are probably sexual or somewhat related in nature.

and re sexual innuendo - well several of the male teachers are self proclaimed "kings of the night.. aka kings of the room salon" , so I kind of doubt they'd be "offended".. though with the women, they definitely demand a "lighter" touch.

We're standing outside yesterday during some ceremony/convocation and the VP saunters over to me and says quietly (which one of the female teachers below do you find the most attractive?)

I'm a little surprised, but I say.. well they all have their good points (which is the truth)

he waves his hand.. and goes.. blah..... I don't think any of them are attractive.

then he says... I think Ms "Blah" is the most attractive - which was obviously a joke since anyone with a pair of eyes, would agree she was one of the most unattractive ones.
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