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The "Sex and the city" recovery thread.
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KumaraKitty



Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All my female friends had Cosmos at the bar and then went to watch it. They all loved it.
I think I am the lone female who hasn't watched the series obsessively and does not want to watch the movie amongst my group of friends.
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nolegirl



Joined: 17 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked the movie and the show, BUT

What is annyong is how when I was in college suddenly the female population ordered cosmopiltans and talked about manolo blahniks, seriously cosmos taste like fruit punch with some random liqueor in it and the shoes, well I would not spend over $200 on a pair of shoes, and manolos run upwards of $500-700, imo I would rather buy something cooler then a pair of shoes with $700.

So in essence, the show taught every women to spend way beyond their means. Visa and American Express I am sure support this show.
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bovinerebel wrote:
xingyiman wrote:
bovinerebel wrote:
xingyiman wrote:
Hmmmm...watching a few over-the-hill (and thats being conservative) gals be complete ho's. That's entertainment? Rolling Eyes


They're not being ho's. They're just expressing themselves. It's not sleazy....it's playful and adventerous.

Rolling Eyes


Ah....the PC apologist.


...I'm rolling my eyes at the pc apologists (not you).


Sorry, my sarcasm meter must be turned off today.
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bovinerebel



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolegirl wrote:
I liked the movie and the show, BUT

What is annyong is how when I was in college suddenly the female population ordered cosmopiltans and talked about manolo blahniks, seriously cosmos taste like fruit punch with some random liqueor in it and the shoes, well I would not spend over $200 on a pair of shoes, and manolos run upwards of $500-700, imo I would rather buy something cooler then a pair of shoes with $700.

So in essence, the show taught every women to spend way beyond their means. Visa and American Express I am sure support this show.


It's not likely to be their own money. Let's be honest.
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sistersarah



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't watch the show, but was out with friends and ended up going to see this. What bothered me most about it was all the product placement, like louis vuitton and starbucks through the whole thing. The reaction of the theatre audience to these products was sometimes audible. When Carrie gives her PA the Louis Vuitton bag, I thought the Korean women sitting all around me were going to hyperventilate. And yet, when Steve told Miranda that he'd cheated on her, there was no reaction at all...
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sistersarah wrote:
What bothered me most about it was all the product placement, like louis vuitton and starbucks through the whole thing.

There was a time in American television history when laws on product & brand placement were such that you had these goofy scenes like a husband at home sitting down to a nice cold bottle or can of "BEER" in big bold black print on a white label. All sort of things, blank cigarette packets, etc. I'm seeing this in a lot of old Alfred Hitchcock Presents from the mid-1950s, for instance.

That's one extreme. But I don't know if the "Sex in the City" movie necessarily represents the other. I mean, is it not quite natural that women -- and these characters in particular -- actually do buy and do like to show off their LV bags? And go to and be seen at Starbucks? So, why "bothered"? I would imagine products & brands factor quite prominently in these women's lives. Isn't this just realism, showing life as it is? Or should those LV handbags have said "HANDBAG" and the signs on the Starbucks "COFFEE SHOP"?

Some people are into the whole no-name, no-brand, sandal-wearing hippy shtick, and that's just dandy. But that's surely not what these career-successful women's lives are about.

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The reaction of the theatre audience to these products was sometimes audible. When Carrie gives her PA the Louis Vuitton bag, I thought the Korean women sitting all around me were going to hyperventilate.

Korean women are very stylish.

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And yet, when Steve told Miranda that he'd cheated on her, there was no reaction at all...

And realistic.













(j/k on that last bit. that does sound depressing and believable)
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bovinerebel



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't have to be a smelly tie dyed , hippy to think it's crass to spend thousands of dollars on a hand bag while people starve in the world. You may think you're so special and important that you're entitled to want that stuff , while I reserve the right to think you're not all that special or important at all. You're nothing but a narcicistic , greedy , shallow void of nothing to me Maam and all the handbags , dresses , nake up , fake boobs and shoes in the world can't disguise that. In fact they just highlight it more.
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sistersarah



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There was a time in American television history when laws on product & brand placement were such that you had these goofy scenes like a husband at home sitting down to a nice cold bottle or can of "BEER" in big bold black print on a white label. All sort of things, blank cigarette packets, etc. I'm seeing this in a lot of old Alfred Hitchcock Presents from the mid-1950s, for instance.


I'm all for realism, but the scene where she brings out the big Louis box, which takes up the entire screen was a bit much. You could totally tell they were pushing certain brands throughout the movie. Don't think it was my imagination.

And to echo bovinerebel, which I never thought I'd do, you don't have to be a hippie to not want to spend thousands on a purse. I love high-quality leather bags, and probably have one too many in my closet, but I wouldn't pay hundreds more than one's worth just for a name brand........like some more "stylish" women out there.
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe Steve cheated on Miranda ...

Or that I'm bored enough to post in this thread.
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bovinerebel



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sistersarah wrote:
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There was a time in American television history when laws on product & brand placement were such that you had these goofy scenes like a husband at home sitting down to a nice cold bottle or can of "BEER" in big bold black print on a white label. All sort of things, blank cigarette packets, etc. I'm seeing this in a lot of old Alfred Hitchcock Presents from the mid-1950s, for instance.


I'm all for realism, but the scene where she brings out the big Louis box, which takes up the entire screen was a bit much. You could totally tell they were pushing certain brands throughout the movie. Don't think it was my imagination.

And to echo bovinerebel, which I never thought I'd do, you don't have to be a hippie to not want to spend thousands on a purse. I love high-quality leather bags, and probably have one too many in my closet, but I wouldn't pay hundreds more than one's worth just for a name brand........like some more "stylish" women out there.


Good girl. I like clothes and realise their importance as a social device and think it's great when girls dress up and look good.....as long as they keep perspective on it and do it within reason. You can buy perfectly good quality clothing that doesn't gave the name stamped on it of some bitchy , pretentious gay european man. It's not like it wasn't mass produced without love or care in some sweat shop same as the rest anyway. Until women can stop putting such value in these things men will never really respect you as equals. That's the sad truth.

Wouldn't you rather not attract the type of people who'd be attracted to name brand clothing anyway. Such people are far too caught up in their own self serving narcicism to offer you anything in the form of hapiness. If you're going to sell your soul , sell it for a good price. Don't allow yourself to be swept up and bought by some cynical marketing campaign.

Certainly don't mold your dreams and aspirations around such idiocy.

Burn your magazine bibles and empty out your shrines of potions and trickery ......a life lived through a mirror is an alientated and sad one, where the only image you see of yourself is one that can only deteriote through the years.
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ardis



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
My gf is a huge Sex and the City fan. She said the movie was a letdown. She said her expectations were really high. She compared it to Star Wars fans and watching Episode 1.


No no no no. Episode I was a huge, huge let down. My Luke Skywalker lightsaber was pushed back to the most remote regions of my closet after that mess.

Sex and the City? Regular let down. I think Sex and the City was an amusing show--it was funny, the fashion was fun, and I think some of us WERE really happy to hear stuff that wasn't the censored drivel of Jennifer Aniston whining on Friends. It was frank, materialistic, and it was what it was.

The movie was okay--wasn't witty or funny enough, amusingly over-dramatic at points, and the drama was too forced. Other than that...wasn't terrible, wasn't great.
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nicholas_chiasson



Joined: 14 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like wearing a tie to work...just cause they were 3 for $10 and have zippers doesn't make me a slob. Paying for names is stupid. At least with expesnive food and wine it is rare(because of production and region
) and tastes great.
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So where do you draw the line between acceptable luxuries and unacceptable luxuries? What about colonic irrigation?
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bovinerebel



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
So where do you draw the line between acceptable luxuries and unacceptable luxuries? What about colonic irrigation?


It's not a simple question as it's not black and white always and many things fall into the grey area. I think we can agree paying thousands of dollars more for something because of a brand fall pretty much in the black area though.

I like some things people would consider pretentious. I like certain red wines that can be pricey for example. I drink them on my own or with friends. It's all good and fine until the day I especially go out and buy a bottle for its price tag to impress someone, rather than for it's taste. I think the distinction is pretty simple there.

Life's got to be more than a series of dishonest gestures in order to obtain some imagined sense of social upward mobility , no ? When all things are considered, even to the most hardened nihalistic existentialist , there's got to be some form of greater value put in things for what they are rather than what social power they wield for the mere sake of it.

There's got to be some value in being a person without the sense of entitlement that makes them hunger for self aggrandisment and empowerment....some value is just being and indulging life without agenda's that infringe upon the space of other.

If not everything that makes us uniquely human may as well fade away while we strive to out do eachother by investing what we represent in physical monuments , until we are nothing but those monuments themselves .


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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well I would not spend over $200 on a pair of shoes



Please say there is a missing decimal point in that number.
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