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Winning the war in Iraq: Yes, we can!
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Will we win in Iraq?
Yes
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Maybe
17%
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No
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 61%  [ 24 ]
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Does anyone else who is not religious resent at some level the introduction of religion into everything these days?


Oh, man, I'm with you on that one.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReeseDog wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Does anyone else who is not religious resent at some level the introduction of religion into everything these days?


Oh, man, I'm with you on that one.

You know you're both going to hell, right?

Laughing
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
ReeseDog wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Does anyone else who is not religious resent at some level the introduction of religion into everything these days?


Oh, man, I'm with you on that one.

You know you're both going to hell, right?

Laughing


Does it look much like South Africa?
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You know you're both going to hell, right?



As Sartre implied (and maybe even said), "Hell is other people". I have to agree. You get into a conversation about anything and then get blind-sided by some Bible/Koran/Talmud/Vedic-thumper quote and there goes the conversation down the tubes.
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agentX



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Does anyone else who is not religious resent at some level the introduction of religion into everything these days?


Remember the religious coin scandal and the Koran shooting incident last month? It's only the tip of a very huge and ugly iceberg.
Basically, the Army and Air Force have been infested with hyper-religious evangelicals hell-bent on turning the armed forces into a paid missionary force.
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2008/6/4/115352/2789
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No less than one of the primary groups responsible for targeting Iraqis for conversion is also strongly linked to military steeplejacking--Campus Crusade has been linked to both, and the Patriarch of the Chaldean Catholic Church specifically has called out Campus Crusade as one of the worst offenders in this regard. Many of the persons most intimately involved with the Abu Ghraib torture scandal are linked with the Assemblies of God, which has increasingly gone not only militaristic in its imagery but has increasingly become virulently anti-Moslem (many in the Assemblies have in fact called for an outright ethnic cleansing of Moslems from the US and have even relied on Holocaust revisionism to support these calls)

And increasingly these actions--and the actions of American dominionist "missionaries"--are doing the equivalent of painting concentric circles on the backs of every man and woman in uniform in Iraq.

Campus Crusade and the Assemblies are by far not the only dominionist groups to be simultaneously targeting the Iraqi people and US soldiers in their own metaphysical wargames. The Southern Baptist Convention--itself fairly recently steeplejacked--is rather aggressively targeting both soldiers and Iraqis by its own admission--and SBC churches themselves are increasingly adopting military imagery and other aspects of "Joel's Army" theology, up to and including imprecatory prayers against critics. Interestingly, the SBC and other "fundamentalist Baptist" groups seem to be particularly targeting the USMC in similar manner to how neopentecostal groups have targeted the Army and Air Force.

What were the reason for invading Iraq again?
WMDs, removing Saddam, oil, paying off cronies...and now, to fight another Crusade.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Remember the religious coin scandal and the Koran shooting incident last month?


Only vaguely. I was too busy rolling my eyes at the memory of the Christians pushing their claptrap at the US Air Force Academy at the expense of Jews and others.

It's long past time to clean out the officer corps who is allowing this kind of nonsense to go on.
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Who would Jesus attack?


11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter."[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

17And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."

19Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. 20But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. 21The rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you guys don't have to worry about hell after all.

HELL EXPLAINED

The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid term.

The answer by one student was so 'profound' that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well:


Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

One student, however, wrote the following:

First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today.

Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct......leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.'


THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+.
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