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Creeface



Joined: 08 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: To private tutor or to not private tutor... Reply with quote

that is the question.

And since it took me all of about 5 seconds to figure out that the answer is yes, what is the best way to go about that (best way to get clients, how much to charge, where to do it, etc..)
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jackson7



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Location: Kim Jong Il's Future Fireball

PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As most of us that have experience in this for a while will probably tell you, if you don't know the answers to those questions, you're probably not ready to take on the task itself.

Preparing for classes full of students from a given text versus preparing for a private is very different. As far as getting students...don't advertise unless you've got an F visa. Other than that...teach well and they will come. Speak Korean and they will come in hordes.

As far as money goes, I have a friend that gets paid anywhere from 30,000 to 70,000 per hour, depending on the client. If you're getting paid big bucks, you'd better be putting in the prep time to create a good atmosphere for learning.
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KoreanAmbition



Joined: 03 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm new to Korea, but one time I heard something about privates being illegal.

TO be sure you should go ask immigration.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: To private tutor or to not private tutor... Reply with quote

Creeface wrote:
that is the question.

And since it took me all of about 5 seconds to figure out that the answer is yes, what is the best way to go about that (best way to get clients, how much to charge, where to do it, etc..)


Send an e-mail to [email protected] and they will make sure you have your hands full and they will keep you busy for the duration of your stay in Korea.

While you are at it, make sure you look up the thread on "more than 8000 visa violators arrested since April".

Put up your posters and join the crowd.
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wayfarer



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: To private tutor or to not private tutor... Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Creeface wrote:
that is the question.

And since it took me all of about 5 seconds to figure out that the answer is yes, what is the best way to go about that (best way to get clients, how much to charge, where to do it, etc..)


Send an e-mail to [email protected] and they will make sure you have your hands full and they will keep you busy for the duration of your stay in Korea.

While you are at it, make sure you look up the thread on "more than 8000 visa violators arrested since April".

Put up your posters and join the crowd.


I have met many other E2 visa native teachers since coming to Korea last year, and I'd say at least half of them teach or have taught privates.

The law against teaching privates on an E2 doesn't seem to be enforced very much. After all, how could it be? So they catch you in a coffeeshop talking to a Korean person with some English books? So what - that's just my friend and we're just having a language exchange... The chances of them finding you there and bothering you about it are less than one in a million, anyway. The company classes you have to be a little more careful about.

You can get privates all kinds of ways.. meeting Korean people is usually the best way, but I've also picked up a few through online advertisements... Obviously, putting up posters in a public place is not the way to go about it.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point is: any newbie who has to ask, doesn't know enough to stay out of trouble.

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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people put ads up in universities- a friend of mine had an ad put up at Ewha Women's University and had quite a few lovely young ladies calling him for English conversation practice at 35,000 an hour.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people say privates are 50,000w an hour. That is the biggest piece of BS I've ever heard. Good luck finding ANYONE at 50,000w an hour. Most Koreans are looking at around 25,000-30,000w an hour. The only way you can get 50,000+ an hour is if you teach 2 or more students at the same time.

Look at gawemaster.com, or study4you.co.kr and see the prices of the English tutors advertising. Sure, you are a native speaker, but in the mind of Koreans, that doesn't justify 50,000w an hour.

I think there are a couple lucky people who can find executives or spoiled rich kids for 50,000w an hour 1:1 lessons.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Some people say privates are 50,000w an hour. That is the biggest piece of BS I've ever heard. Good luck finding ANYONE at 50,000w an hour.

I've got 3 at 55,000 I have a colleague getting 100,000 - I know because I'm subbing in August and looking forward to the big payday.

You're full of crap.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
Some people say privates are 50,000w an hour. That is the biggest piece of BS I've ever heard. Good luck finding ANYONE at 50,000w an hour.

I've got 3 at 55,000 I have a colleague getting 100,000 - I know because I'm subbing in August and looking forward to the big payday.

You're full of crap.


55,000 an HOUR?

I'm talking private 1:1 tutoring. Not corporate classes, and not executives. You aren't going to get 50,000w an hour students by passing out fliers, phone calls, and websites.

My point is, people make it seem liek 50,000w an hour for privates is the NORM when it is an exception.
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wayfarer



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
The only way you can get 50,000+ an hour is if you teach 2 or more students at the same time.


Moral of the story: teach 2 or more students at the same time.

Simple.
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Some people say privates are 50,000w an hour. That is the biggest piece of BS I've ever heard. Good luck finding ANYONE at 50,000w an hour. Most Koreans are looking at around 25,000-30,000w an hour. The only way you can get 50,000+ an hour is if you teach 2 or more students at the same time.

Look at gawemaster.com, or study4you.co.kr and see the prices of the English tutors advertising. Sure, you are a native speaker, but in the mind of Koreans, that doesn't justify 50,000w an hour.

I think there are a couple lucky people who can find executives or spoiled rich kids for 50,000w an hour 1:1 lessons.


Dude, you don't know what you are talking about. 50,000
is standard per class regardless of size. I don't think you really live in
Korea, do you?
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
pkang0202 wrote:
Some people say privates are 50,000w an hour. That is the biggest piece of BS I've ever heard. Good luck finding ANYONE at 50,000w an hour. Most Koreans are looking at around 25,000-30,000w an hour. The only way you can get 50,000+ an hour is if you teach 2 or more students at the same time.

Look at gawemaster.com, or study4you.co.kr and see the prices of the English tutors advertising. Sure, you are a native speaker, but in the mind of Koreans, that doesn't justify 50,000w an hour.

I think there are a couple lucky people who can find executives or spoiled rich kids for 50,000w an hour 1:1 lessons.


Dude, you don't know what you are talking about. 50,000
is standard per class regardless of size. I don't think you really live in
Korea, do you?


This is the truth. You can definitely get 50,000 won quite easily per hour. Not that I would know...heh
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Southern Drawl



Joined: 13 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some people say privates are 50,000w an hour. That is the biggest piece of BS I've ever heard. Good luck finding ANYONE at 50,000w an hour. Most Koreans are looking at around 25,000-30,000w an hour. The only way you can get 50,000+ an hour is if you teach 2 or more students at the same time.

Look at gawemaster.com, or study4you.co.kr and see the prices of the English tutors advertising. Sure, you are a native speaker, but in the mind of Koreans, that doesn't justify 50,000w an hour.

I think there are a couple lucky people who can find executives or spoiled rich kids for 50,000w an hour 1:1 lessons.



PKang0202 I wholeheartedly disagree with you. I don't even live in Seoul and I get 50,000 won per hour for 1:1 non-corporate private classes. Cohiba and Hank the Iconoclast are right.

You also said:
Quote:
Sure, you are a native speaker, but in the mind of Koreans, that doesn't justify 50,000w an hour.


Again, I disagree. People are more than willing to pay me 50,000 per hour because I am a native speaker. Most Korean people I meet can more than justify in their minds paying a higher price for private teaching from a native speaker. Some people can't afford me. That doesn't mean they don't want me to be their teacher.
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wayfarer



Joined: 05 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

40,000 is a little more typical for 1:1. Depends on how you sell yourself and whether or not you are able to find well-to-do customers. I wouldn't ever work for less, though.
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