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Cheonmunka
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Well, thanks for bursting our tickling little bubblies that made us think the World was beautiful. Now it's just as fㅜcked up as it ever was.
I hope you are proud of yourself. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
Well, thanks for bursting our tickling little bubblies that made us think the World was beautiful. Now it's just as fㅜcked up as it ever was.
I hope you are proud of yourself. |
I'm going to make this so much worse for you. santa claus...he doesn't exist. Sorry. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| A water-powered car? Finally! |
The saudis are sweating buckets about this.
Not only will they actually have to work for a living one day, theres no water in the country to drive the car to work with. |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| A water-powered car? Finally! |
The saudis are sweating buckets about this.
Not only will they actually have to work for a living one day, theres no water in the country to drive the car to work with. |
Maybe you missed the whole "breaks the laws of physics" thing.
Water can combine with some metals in an exothermic reaction, Aluminium comes to mind, but then we'd have an Aluminium powered car.
Not to mention that if they did make a virtual perpeptual motion machine, one could hook up pretty much anything to it. Why not ships or 1GW powerplants?
The future of cars is in plugin hybrids for the next 10-20 years. Those things will reduce oil use by 80%-90% over current models, bringing liquid use within the range of future biofuels. |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| OneWayTraffic wrote: |
| nautilus wrote: |
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| A water-powered car? Finally! |
The saudis are sweating buckets about this.
Not only will they actually have to work for a living one day, theres no water in the country to drive the car to work with. |
Maybe you missed the whole "breaks the laws of physics" thing.
Water can combine with some metals in an exothermic reaction, Aluminium comes to mind, but then we'd have an Aluminium powered car.
Not to mention that if they did make a virtual perpeptual motion machine, one could hook up pretty much anything to it. Why not ships or 1GW powerplants? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak
It doesn't exactly use water, but someone earlier in the thread mentioned nuclear fusion. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| merkurix wrote: |
| OneWayTraffic wrote: |
| nautilus wrote: |
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| A water-powered car? Finally! |
The saudis are sweating buckets about this.
Not only will they actually have to work for a living one day, theres no water in the country to drive the car to work with. |
Maybe you missed the whole "breaks the laws of physics" thing.
Water can combine with some metals in an exothermic reaction, Aluminium comes to mind, but then we'd have an Aluminium powered car.
Not to mention that if they did make a virtual perpeptual motion machine, one could hook up pretty much anything to it. Why not ships or 1GW powerplants? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak
It doesn't exactly use water, but someone earlier in the thread mentioned nuclear fusion. |
Errr. Are you suggesting this car, despite the inventor's claims it is using a chemical process (not fusion, cold or hot), actually is using a fusion process? |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| Errr. Are you suggesting this car, despite the inventor's claims it is using a chemical process (not fusion, cold or hot), actually is using a fusion process? |
I hope not. The physics behind magnetic confinement basically states that workable Tokamaks will be very very big. Imagine a Hummer sized car with a A380 sized motor. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Okay you braintwerps, start speaking in layman's language. This is a teachers' site after all ... |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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That one may well be a scam but this, while not as revolutionary, does at least offer some hope for the future:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-9969263-54.html
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| The four-door sedan, called the FCX Clarity, runs on electricity from a fuel cell battery that is powered by hydrogen fuel. Steam is the car's only byproduct. The car can get a combined (city and highway driving) fuel efficiency of about 72 miles per kg of H2 which, according to Honda's own estimates, is the equivalent of getting about 74 mpg on a gas-powered car. The car can be driven for about 280 miles before needing to be refueled. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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That one may well be a scam but this, while not as revolutionary, does at least offer some hope for the future:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-9969263-54.html
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| The four-door sedan, called the FCX Clarity, runs on electricity from a fuel cell battery that is powered by hydrogen fuel. Steam is the car's only byproduct. The car can get a combined (city and highway driving) fuel efficiency of about 72 miles per kg of H2 which, according to Honda's own estimates, is the equivalent of getting about 74 mpg on a gas-powered car. The car can be driven for about 280 miles before needing to be refueled. |
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Yeah fuel cells are pretty established tech. NASA has been using them on space missions since I think Apollo.
See the comment here by saburai:
http://www.theness.com/neurologicablog/?p=315
He does a pretty good job of putting it in context. Clearly the engine consumes something else to produce electricity. However, the problem with news reporters is they just see "car runs on water" and run with that. |
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