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do I have enough ammunition for quitting now?

 
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: do I have enough ammunition for quitting now? Reply with quote

So,

Hagwon troubles. They didn't pay for my plane ticket, they didn't have housing ready, changed the location where I requested to work without notifying me, and just now they asked me to substitute at a different location than the one I'm even listed at, which Ttompatz just told me is illegeal.

Is that enough to march in with a 30 day notice, and demand a letter of release or a report to the labor board?

(hilarity of all this: I haven't even started yet).
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get as much as you can in writing from your employer from this day on.

Any request outside of your contract should be given to you in writing with the school stamp on it.
e.g. working at another location

You should also keep written records of everything.
You should request your airfare reimbursement in writing tomorrow.
Have your boss sign it and stamp it whatever the answer is.

When it comes time to quit, you may want to take your case to the labor board and you will need to provide documented evidence of every gripe you have against your employer.

Without evidence, your complaints will simply fall on deaf ears.

When it is time to hand in your notice, send it by registred post and if you can, get your employer to sign, stamp and copy it for you.

If you do make the decision to quit, make sure you have a game plan.
Are you staying in Korea to work elsewhere?
Are you going home for good?

If you leave this job, you are going to be out of pocket. Realise that immediately. You are never going to get every cent owing to you.
Your best hope is damage control and to get out of an unhappy situation as quickly and as stress free as possible.
All the best of luck to you!
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aussiekimchi wrote:
Get as much as you can in writing from your employer from this day on.

Any request outside of your contract should be given to you in writing with the school stamp on it.
e.g. working at another location

You should also keep written records of everything.
You should request your airfare reimbursement in writing tomorrow.
Have your boss sign it and stamp it whatever the answer is.

When it comes time to quit, you may want to take your case to the labor board and you will need to provide documented evidence of every gripe you have against your employer.

Without evidence, your complaints will simply fall on deaf ears.

When it is time to hand in your notice, send it by registred post and if you can, get your employer to sign, stamp and copy it for you.

If you do make the decision to quit, make sure you have a game plan.
Are you staying in Korea to work elsewhere?
Are you going home for good?

If you leave this job, you are going to be out of pocket. Realise that immediately. You are never going to get every cent owing to you.
Your best hope is damage control and to get out of an unhappy situation as quickly and as stress free as possible.
All the best of luck to you!


See people...this is Dave's ESL cafe at it's best.

Yes, I plan on staying in Korea, and actually have an interview tomorrow (it's for a job that sounds amazing).

I realize that I'll basically be passing time after I hand in my 30 day, but I won't drop my 30 day until after the first paycheck (and that will only be if I get another job).

My game plan is to basically go in with the email sent from them asking for me to sub, in addition to my other gripes, and say, "Listen, here is my 30 day notice. You've failed to deliver several aspects of the contract on time, and you also asked me to participate in illegal work. I have an offer for a new job, and I would like you to give me a letter of release. If you do, I won't mention this to immigration or the labor board, but if you don't, I will."

If I understand you correctly, you're saying, like, don't even make this an idle threat, right? Do I go STRAIGHT to the labor board, or do I go in if they don't give me a letter of release?


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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

double post.
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll run into trouble if your current employer does not want to cancel your visa or give you a release letter. That is why you will need all the written evidence.
Labor board should not be rushed into and should be done as a last option.
You will also need someone to help you with the Korean possibly.

If you used a decent recruiter, have them talk to your school boss.
Start getting your required paperwork together for the new visa.
You will not have to get a new CRC nor another medical.
BUT..you will have to visit Immigration with your current boss to cancel your current visa and then with your new boss to apply for the new one.
You will then go to Japan and back on the visa run.

Different Immi offices have slight variations on this so you may want to get some advice from your new employer as to exactly what your particular immi office needs you to do.

Ok..lone selfless act done for the day.
Back to the slave trade!
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knee-highs



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: yes

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aussiekimchi wrote:
You'll run into trouble if your current employer does not want to cancel your visa or give you a release letter. That is why you will need all the written evidence.
Labor board should not be rushed into and should be done as a last option.
You will also need someone to help you with the Korean possibly.

If you used a decent recruiter, have them talk to your school boss.
Start getting your required paperwork together for the new visa.
You will not have to get a new CRC nor another medical.
BUT..you will have to visit Immigration with your current boss to cancel your current visa and then with your new boss to apply for the new one.
You will then go to Japan and back on the visa run.

Different Immi offices have slight variations on this so you may want to get some advice from your new employer as to exactly what your particular immi office needs you to do.

Ok..lone selfless act done for the day.
Back to the slave trade!


your advice is not "selfless"... what a crock... the fact that you even mention it is "selfless" makes it null.... you come on here and give advice to further your reputation so you can "say" you are a good recruiter....and maybe you are, but certainly not above some self-promotion... you have an agenda...

selfless indeed!
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
you have an agenda...


Quite unlike knee-highs.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you in or out of Korea? I know of a pie job that was offered to me that I can't except.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can quit when ever you want, you are not a slave, if your employer has not paid your flights or visa costs you owe them nothing. Quit, go to japan, come back (not on your e2) and find another job. if your contract says 30 days then give them 30 days (but just remember just like back home if your employer is treating you like sh*t, you can just leave), just be prepared to leave the country
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

knee highs....I'm guessing you are one of those.." I take myself bloody seriously" types huh...
take a breathe...it is only Korea.
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