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bucheon bum
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 Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject: Profile of Michelle Obama |
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Good article in the NY Times
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Michelle Robinson grew up in the black half of a divided Chicago. She and her brother, Craig, lived with their parents on the second floor of a bungalow. �Two bedrooms, if you want to be generous,� she says.
Her father, Frasier Robinson, was a pump operator for Chicago�s water department and a precinct captain in the Democratic machine. Her mother, Marian, brought workbooks home to keep her children ahead of their classes. The working-class neighborhood was filled with uncles and grandparents, block associations and oak trees. �We knew the gang-bangers � my brother played basketball in the park,� Mrs. Obama says. �Home never feels dangerous.� |
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�I looked out at my neighborhood and sort of had an epiphany that I had to bring my skills to bear in the place that made me,� she says in the interview. �I wanted to have a career motivated by passion and not just money.�
Eventually, she started the Chicago chapter of a training program called Public Allies. |
She comes across as a highly motivated, A-type personality. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't it be interesting having a president married to a woman who can use the word 'epiphany' in a sentence?
Only 7 months from Friday! (Whoever wins.) |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| A strong African-American Woman. A big target for the far right. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| A strong African-American Woman. A big target for the far right. |
Your comment is what can be refered to as slander
Yep those neo cons are sure racist. |
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aarontendo
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Current administration is more colorful than any others we've had (at least from what I read). Of course, they're republican so it's either a lie or they have some nefarious plan they're hatching. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Given their party, couldn't it be both? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| lived with their parents on the second floor of a bungalow |
Isn't a bungalow, by definition, one floor? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| I took it as 'attic of a very small house'. |
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On the other hand
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Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| catman wrote: |
| A strong African-American Woman. A big target for the far right. |
Your comment is what can be refered to as slander
Yep those neo cons are sure racist. |
Yes, but there is a segment of the American electorate that is so oblivious to logic that they worry about Obama being a closet Muslim, while being completely oblivious to the fact that Bush has appointed an honest-to-God, out-of-the-closet-and-down-on-his-knees-facing-Mecca Muslim as ambassador to the UN.
These types likely wouldn't come even close to recognizing the contradiction between freaking out about Mrs. Obama, but being A-OK with having Ms. Rice in State. The GOP bigwigs aren't like this, of course, but they know that those types are out there, and are happy to pander to their paranoia. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| OTOH, what you write is true. Fortunately, the types that fret about Obama being a muslim are already solidly in the batshitcrazy wing of the GOP and were never up for grabs by the Dems anyways. At best, such scare tactics will struggle to produce even the most marginal results. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| At best, such scare tactics will struggle to produce even the most marginal results. |
Yeah, the only effect I could see it having is as a scare tactic for mobilizing those loonies who otherwise wouldn't be voting. Any paranoid loonie who is planning to vote is likely planning to vote GOP. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| catman wrote: |
| A strong African-American Woman. A big target for the far right. |
Your comment is what can be refered to as slander
Yep those neo cons are sure racist. |
Yes, but there is a segment of the American electorate that is so oblivious to logic that they worry about Obama being a closet Muslim, while being completely oblivious to the fact that Bush has appointed an honest-to-God, out-of-the-closet-and-down-on-his-knees-facing-Mecca Muslim as ambassador to the UN.
These types likely wouldn't come even close to recognizing the contradiction between freaking out about Mrs. Obama, but being A-OK with having Ms. Rice in State. The GOP bigwigs aren't like this, of course, but they know that those types are out there, and are happy to pander to their paranoia. |
According to my Republican grandfather, Rice "isn't one of those, so she's okay" in his "book". Given that his level of enlightenment is on par with the average housecat, and I've never seen him read a book let alone write one he might call his own, it's easy to take him with a boulder of salt.
It does seem to represent an attitude on both sides, that those with us are somehow fundamentally different than those against us. Whether its 'we're smart they're not', or 'we're compassionate, they're not', etc. For the right its the minorities, for the left it's the old white guys. It just seems silly to me, as economics has always seemed a greater indicator of politics than race ever could be. |
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genezorm
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Mokpo
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| don't forget she said �For the first time in my adult lifetime, I�m really proud of my country" ... this is a disrespect to america, all americans should be proud of their country always....americans have the most freedom of all the countries, that is why the islams don't like us.......all people are jealous of america, that is why everyone wants to live in america.....i don't want to have someone like this in the white house who is not proud of the glorious history of the us and a. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I read it. I'm persuaded that Michelle is not motivated by racial resentment. I'm not persuaded that she's going to be a great first lady. I'm just not. And to think: we could have had Bill Clinton as a first lady. No, this woman will have to do. Oh, and I have not been convinced that her outspokenness is any sort of virtue, much less that she has anything truly worth saying.
I'm not a fan. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| this is a disrespect to america |
I don't agree. |
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