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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vancouver wrote:
Bigfeet wrote:
It really is sad that the US screwed up the 1812 war so much. We could be having 60 states instead of 50 right now. Very Happy
62 actually, cause there are two territories in Canada, and Alaska would probably be part of the Yukon. The only good thing about not being American is that I don't have to worry about getting drafted once McCain or Obama wins


and the truth of the matter his, had the US ever taken it over they would have seen it as the biggest headache ever. big, no infrastructure... a pain in the ass.

they would have re-drawn the border at about calgary and turned the north into a big siberia/mexico plantation.
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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

friendoken wrote:
I read a book by Michael Bradley called "The Holy Grail Across the Atlantic" that offers a rather unique perspective on Canada's founding.

One of the things that makes Canada such an intriguing place is the mystery of its origins. Regardless of what some of the more childish commentaries say about this country, I am proud to be Canadian. There are very few passports that are equal to my own as a measure of a person's integrity and mindfulness.

Having said that, I will be an ex-pat Canadian next month after I graduate from university. It's nice...but too darn cold. SE Asia and ESL, here I come.


Thought you were coming to Korea? You realise that it's not in South East Asia, right?

Your second paragraph is laughable, as is the concept of being proud to be a citizen of any nationality. Pride in the location of one's birth would imply that one had a say in the matter. I will say though, that I'm grateful to be Canadian. As a nation, we're a lot better off than most of us realise.
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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
mises wrote:
friendoken wrote:
I am proud to be Canadian. There are very few passports that are equal to my own as a measure of a person's integrity and mindfullness.


How's that work?


no doubt. how does your passport measure whether or not you are a douche?

i've met tons of people with canadian passports who are complete wastes of skin. if that's the measure of how awesome you are, you may as well be selling crack to pregnant women.


Agreed.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:

Your second paragraph is laughable, as is the concept of being proud to be a citizen of any nationality. Pride in the location of one's birth would imply that one had a say in the matter. I will say though, that I'm grateful to be Canadian. As a nation, we're a lot better off than most of us realise.


You can't have pride in your culture or in your hometown or in your society's achievements? I find that sentiment more than silly, myself.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
friendoken wrote:
I read a book by Michael Bradley called "The Holy Grail Across the Atlantic" that offers a rather unique perspective on Canada's founding.

One of the things that makes Canada such an intriguing place is the mystery of its origins. Regardless of what some of the more childish commentaries say about this country, I am proud to be Canadian. There are very few passports that are equal to my own as a measure of a person's integrity and mindfulness.

Having said that, I will be an ex-pat Canadian next month after I graduate from university. It's nice...but too darn cold. SE Asia and ESL, here I come.


Thought you were coming to Korea? You realise that it's not in South East Asia, right?

Your second paragraph is laughable, as is the concept of being proud to be a citizen of any nationality. Pride in the location of one's birth would imply that one had a say in the matter. I will say though, that I'm grateful to be Canadian. As a nation, we're a lot better off than most of us realise.


Hey, peppermint. How are ya?
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friendoken



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
friendoken wrote:
I read a book by Michael Bradley called "The Holy Grail Across the Atlantic" that offers a rather unique perspective on Canada's founding.

One of the things that makes Canada such an intriguing place is the mystery of its origins. Regardless of what some of the more childish commentaries say about this country, I am proud to be Canadian. There are very few passports that are equal to my own as a measure of a person's integrity and mindfulness.

Having said that, I will be an ex-pat Canadian next month after I graduate from university. It's nice...but too darn cold. SE Asia and ESL, here I come.


Thought you were coming to Korea? You realise that it's not in South East Asia, right?

Your second paragraph is laughable, as is the concept of being proud to be a citizen of any nationality. Pride in the location of one's birth would imply that one had a say in the matter. I will say though, that I'm grateful to be Canadian. As a nation, we're a lot better off than most of us realise.


No, I have decided that Korea is not the place for me. I came to that decision entirely by reading the various forums here on Dave's. The ESL folks on the SE Asian forums seem very predominantly to be happy and content, with precious little negativity about their jobs and living situations. The ESL folks in Korea seem to feel quite opposite to those sentiments. Just reading the off topic and general discussion forums about Korea makes me wonder why anybody would choose to go there at all. Money perhaps? No sir, if half of what is said here is half accurate, it does not sound like a great place to be. So, thank you all for helping me decide where to go. I appreciate it.
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uberscheisse



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Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

friendoken wrote:
The ESL folks in Korea seem to feel quite opposite to those sentiments. Just reading the off topic and general discussion forums about Korea makes me wonder why anybody would choose to go there at all. Money perhaps? No sir, if half of what is said here is half accurate, it does not sound like a great place to be.


you do realize that the majority of the ESL community in korea and the world knows that the dave's job board exists, but doesn't know/care a whit about these forums? it's only the people who get sucked into it for some reason or another. the percentage of bitching and moaning is far outweighed by good experiences, in my opinion - only you don't really hear about it, because not that many people come here to say "dude, i just had this super positive experience, and i really need to VENT!"

that said, have fun wherever you go. just don't waltz around thinking that a canadian passport is going to win you any more respect than any other. in the end, it'll be whether or not you take your shoes off at the right time, hold your chopsticks right or whether or not you can keep your cool in stressful cross-cultural situations.

you may get "oooh!!! ca-na-da!!! to-lon-to!!! ban-koo-ba!! i like! very beautiful!" but in most situations, that's pretty much the extent of how much you'll be admired. the rest is how much you can adapt, and your nationality won't help you there. trust me - nobody's impressed.
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Tarmangani



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had always thought that Canada was named after Amerigo's retarded brother Canado Vespucci.
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Khenan



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmangani wrote:
I had always thought that Canada was named after Amerigo's retarded brother Canado Vespucci.

Wink
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Insidejohnmalkovich



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
Imrahil wrote:
ThePoet wrote:
Does anyone remember that group of people known as indians?


Indians??? They arrived form India about 100 years ago. In Canada we use the terms "Native Americans" or Aboriginals."


We do? I thought Aboriginals were the first people of Australia. I thought Canada's first people were called "First Nations people", or Natives, or Inuit in the north.


I call them Indians. So does everyone else in my hometown except people trying to impress the politically correct crowd.
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insidejohnmalkovich wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
Imrahil wrote:
ThePoet wrote:
Does anyone remember that group of people known as indians?


Indians??? They arrived form India about 100 years ago. In Canada we use the terms "Native Americans" or Aboriginals."


We do? I thought Aboriginals were the first people of Australia. I thought Canada's first people were called "First Nations people", or Natives, or Inuit in the north.


I call them Indians. So does everyone else in my hometown except people trying to impress the politically correct crowd.


do you guys ever get beat up or at least talked shit to by your local "indians"?
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mises



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
Insidejohnmalkovich wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
Imrahil wrote:
ThePoet wrote:
Does anyone remember that group of people known as indians?


Indians??? They arrived form India about 100 years ago. In Canada we use the terms "Native Americans" or Aboriginals."


We do? I thought Aboriginals were the first people of Australia. I thought Canada's first people were called "First Nations people", or Natives, or Inuit in the north.


I call them Indians. So does everyone else in my hometown except people trying to impress the politically correct crowd.


do you guys ever get beat up or at least talked shit to by your local "indians"?


The politically correct crowd are almost always white, female and overweight.

You'll find that Natives are less concerned with what you say than how you say it.
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uberscheisse



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
uberscheisse wrote:
Insidejohnmalkovich wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
Imrahil wrote:
ThePoet wrote:
Does anyone remember that group of people known as indians?


Indians??? They arrived form India about 100 years ago. In Canada we use the terms "Native Americans" or Aboriginals."


We do? I thought Aboriginals were the first people of Australia. I thought Canada's first people were called "First Nations people", or Natives, or Inuit in the north.


I call them Indians. So does everyone else in my hometown except people trying to impress the politically correct crowd.


do you guys ever get beat up or at least talked shit to by your local "indians"?


The politically correct crowd are almost always white, female and overweight.

You'll find that Natives are less concerned with what you say than how you say it.


true, but catch them on a bad day... maybe you didn't go to my high school.
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