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MSN article - 'Why Guys Marry Some Girls (and not others)'

 
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gajackson1



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 5:51 am    Post subject: MSN article - 'Why Guys Marry Some Girls (and not others)' Reply with quote

http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationships/couplesandmarriage/articlecosmo.aspx?cp-documentid=7822448&GT1=32001

for those who don't want to read it all, here are the 'Big 5' ~

Trait 1: She's Exciting and Always Evolving

Trait 2: She Really, Really Loves Sex

Trait 3: She Makes It Clear He's Not Her Entire Life

Trait 4: ...Yet She Still Conveys How Very Important He Is to Her

Trait 5: She Wants Him to Be the Best Man He Can Be

I realize this, sadly, is not the same board it was years ago, and the discussion will probably slide fast. But i thought it was an interesting read, even for a quickie Cosmo blurb, and wondered about others takes on it? Think this is a American/Western standard? Age, race, other factors figure in? Does this seem 'about right' to the guys here? Girls, is Cosmo right about this??? Perhaps most importantly, what do you think Koreans would say about these standards???

Glen

(for the record, it took 20 years and a move 1/2 way around the world, but I got mine:D)


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ciccone_youth



Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds about right... but what would I know. I think I'm all those things yet unmarried Laughing Wink
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chapter



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd agree

1) Hey it keeps things interesting. It keeps things from getting boring.

2) NO explanation needed.

3 & 4) Yeah who doesn't want to feel important in a relationship and in saying that we don't want to be smothered and feel like we can't have a life outside of the relationship either.

5) Never hurts to have someone keep you on your toes.
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little mixed girl



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i were to make a list, it would be somewhat similar.
i wouldn't have put the sex on there, because i wouldn't have been thinking about it.

but i think that those are things that apply to both men and women.
i wouldn't want to be with a guy who made me the center of his world and agreed with everything i said.

and people need encouragement and support. that means giving them some praise when they do something good and support when they do something bad. no one likes it when their partner only focuses on the wrong and never the good.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as she does 1 thru 5 in high-heels, I think we're all good.
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RJjr



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Location: Turning on a Lamp

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those aren't the five reasons for marriage. Those are the five reasons for divorce.

Trait 1: She's Exciting and Always Evolving = She argues a lot and is no longer the same girl he married.

Trait 2: She Really, Really Loves Sex = She's sleeping with other men.

Trait 3: She Makes It Clear He's Not Her Entire Life = She comes home late at night smelling like alcohol and cheap cologne.

Trait 4: ...Yet She Still Conveys How Very Important He Is to Her = She wants him to do the honey-do list of chores.

Trait 5: She Wants Him to Be the Best Man He Can Be = He's not making enough money.
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rusty1983



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you get married when you find someone as desperate and insecure as you are
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Faunaki



Joined: 15 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rusty1983 wrote:
I think you get married when you find someone as desperate and insecure as you are


Rusty, you may have a point here. I was totally desperate and lonely and so was my husband. So we got married. It sounds awful but it's probably true for the majority out there.

I do believe in true love but that doesn't mean you want to marry the person you are totally in love with. For instance, I was totally in love with this guy (I believe it was true love) but he was so selfish and arrogant. What an ass. Nothing any sane woman would want to marry.

And from what I heard from guys, it's the chase, the unattainable that makes them go wild. Might explain why you meet some foreign guys who go out with Kgirls that have 11pm curfews or won't tell their parents about him.
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nolegirl



Joined: 17 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Trait 1: She's Exciting and Always Evolving

Trait 2: She Really, Really Loves Sex

Trait 3: She Makes It Clear He's Not Her Entire Life

Trait 4: ...Yet She Still Conveys How Very Important He Is to Her

Trait 5: She Wants Him to Be the Best Man He Can Be


I agree with this list for the most part but I don't think a list can define if your signifigant other loves/likes you, especially a Cosmo list. You fall in love with who you fall in love with, it just happens.

What I don't get is that my girlfriend is in a long distance relationship and all they do is argue. If she even goes out to dinner he has a hissy fit and calls her like 5 times during the meal. There is no trust whatsoever, she has never cheated to prove otherwise. Then she calls me at 2 in hte morning to tell me they broke up. Honestly, they break up every 4 days and I am so sick of hearing about it. I mean its long distance so its not for the make-up sex. Maybe they both like the drama but I am sick of hearing about it. I ma not going to give you sympathy b/c you will be back together by the end of the day. And he sends her the nastiest e-mails. He sends them in Spanish so I can't read them but she reads them to me sometimes and they are so mean. I just don't get it. If my boyfriend wanted to go out with the boys I would be happy, he can do whatever b/c I would trust him, I wouldn't harass the hell out of him.

I shouldn't really give advice though.. my longest relationship... 2 months.
Most of the men I have dated are the ones acting like women. They want to spend every waking moment together and call repeatedly. Com'n, 3 weeks "together" and I use that term loosely and I have 5 missed calls by 11 AM... psycho!

Sorry a little off topic

But for the most part a good list. I think sometimes, how other people pointed out, is 2 people get together b/c their lonely/ comfortable with their partner/ don't think they can do better. I would personally rather be single then any of the above mentioned.
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bovinerebel



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rusty1983 wrote:
I think you get married when you find someone as desperate and insecure as you are


True . If we thought we'd always be able to easily meet and date fresh women , we'd never get married. It's only when we realise our mortality that we freak out and do this silly thing. My advice is ride it out a few years boys.....the idea of marriage won't make so much sense when they panic has settled.
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Cornfed



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Except in exceptional circumstances where the woman is rich or something, there's no reason for a man to get married other than for sex on tap. Sure, he might want to form a spiritual bond with a kindred spirit and all that gay stuff, but why would he do this with a woman when just about anything else (another man, a dog, cat, goldfish, pet rock etc.) would be far more suitable for such purposes? So men typically marry a woman they think is going to be attractive, faithful and available for sex for a long time. It's as simple as that. Generally their assessment of the situation subsequently proves to have been wildly optimistic.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolegirl wrote:
Maybe they both like the drama but I am sick of hearing about it.


Some people--women who watch too much Sex and the City especially--confuse "passion" and "drama" with each other.
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Faunaki



Joined: 15 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cornfed wrote:
So men typically marry a woman they think is going to be attractive, faithful and available for sex for a long time..


That may be so but I think guys are also looking for someone who will make a great mother and produce strong, smart, healthy kids. And if it's a Kguy he's gotta find someone who will take care of his mother.

I think in Korea having children is more important than sex cause that's the way it's structured. Maybe that's why there's so much cheating.
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Suwon23



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Number 5 seems like the kind of thing women think men should want in a woman. But isn't the most common complaint of men in relationships that their significant other is constantly trying to "improve" them? I had a girlfriend once who even used the word"fix" (in the improvement sense, not the veterinary sense Smile ). It was infuriating.
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