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bejarano-korea
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 Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:06 pm Post subject: Spanish teachers to work in the Philippines |
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So it looks like President Arroyo's grand plan to make Spanish an official language to be taught in the high schools of the nation is going to come to fruition.
In my opinion - The Philippines is more like Peru than any other country in Asia, which brings me to my second point on why this is a good idea and thats because a lot of the countries on the Ameican pacific rim are Spanish speaking and their time in becoming decent economies is upon us anytime soon - making Spanish an official language is good for business - especially if it is the only Spanish speaking country in Asia.
So the idea seems to be that Arroyo is going to invite Spanish teachers from Spain, would it be a better idea for the teachers to come from Mexico? A country that shaped the Pinoy culture and language more than Spain ever did?
With the size and the population of the Philippines, it looks like there will be as many Spanish teachers in the Philippines than there are English teachers in Korea - another place to get a job!  |
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JustJohn
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| If you're fluent in spanish... |
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Bigfeet
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Pay will probably suck though. |
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Zebra12
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The new Spanish teachers will be just in time...earning a nice salary which is paid out in sand dollars and bags of rice. The same may happen here in Korea...a nation that will experience an economic crash in due course...as it tries to keep pace with the rising engine of India and China. English will be good for the backdoor escape artists...how to get a visa asap to a 1st world country. I predict as well, that in time, this country will simply be one big smogy swamp--littered with billions of tons of garbage piled on the roadways. America, will be much the same in another hundred years...cesspools glittering in once fabulous cities, and two-headed lizards; highlighted with big billboards of 'Hollywood dunces' on street corners. Such is Life in the Modern world. Nations sinking into the muck of false economies...the world's environment in crisis...Planet of the Apes [revisited]. The decay of the American Dream in the Global Village.  |
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nicholas_chiasson
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| did somebody spike your coffee with depression pills again? |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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| What's the Spanish word for barfine? |
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browneyedgirl
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Spanish teachers to work in the Philippines |
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| bejarano-korea wrote: |
| would it be a better idea for the teachers to come from Mexico? A country that shaped the Pinoy culture and language more than Spain ever did? |
Castilian Spanish is a better choice. A lot of Spanish speakers (not me) look down on Mexican dialects, and it's easier just to pick people from Spain.
When I lived in Arizona the job listings always had companies looking to hire translators who were native Spanish speakers, but would stress that they didn't want someone that spoke Mexican Spanish. |
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bejarano-korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Spanish teachers to work in the Philippines |
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| bejarano-korea wrote: |
| would it be a better idea for the teachers to come from Mexico? A country that shaped the Pinoy culture and language more than Spain ever did? |
Castilian Spanish is a better choice. A lot of Spanish speakers (not me) look down on Mexican dialects, and it's easier just to pick people from Spain. |
They are going to get 'Castillian' Spanish because the Spanish goverment are going to fund this project but there are two factors that need to be amended - one is that in Spain there are as many regional accents as there are in Britian - no-one is going to tell me that an Andalucian speaks better Spanish than a Mexican and secondly Mexican Spanish is regarded as the most clear sounding and intelligble Spanish dialect there is.
As a pointer - the Spanish spoken in the Philipppines is based on Mexcian Spanish - and a lot of Filipino culture is based on Mexican culture, a lot of words in Tagalog come from the Aztec and Mayan languages for example.
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| When I lived in Arizona the job listings always had companies looking to hire translators who were native Spanish speakers, but would stress that they didn't want someone that spoke Mexican Spanish. |
Thats more down to American racism and stereotype rather than the quality of Spanish an educated Mexican speaks. |
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dimitri31
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| So the idea seems to be that Arroyo is going to invite Spanish teachers from Spain, would it be a better idea for the teachers to come from Mexico? A country that shaped the Pinoy culture and language more than Spain ever did? |
I think it doesn't matter much whether the Spanish teachers come from Spain or Mexico. Spanish spoken in Spain is still understood by Spanish speakers throughout the world, though like in all dialects there are some differences amongst the different variations.
I am half Mexican and half Filipino, and I have never heard of anything from my Cebu-born mother about Mexico's influence in the Philippines. She did mention a lot about the Spaniards though.
So, after doing a little research about the Mexican influence in the Philippines, I was quite surprised...interesting stuff that I've never known beforehand.
I think your question about Spanish teachers coming from Mexico or Spain, is kind of like asking whether American or British teachers should teach in Korea.
Anyways, thanks for the informative post.
cheers |
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dimitri31
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When I lived in Arizona the job listings always had companies looking to hire translators who were native Spanish speakers, but would stress that they didn't want someone that spoke Mexican Spanish. |
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Thats more down to American racism and stereotype rather than the quality of Spanish an educated Mexican speaks.
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couldn't agree with you anymore than that bejarano!! |
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Frankly Mr Shankly
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| Reminds me of when Timor Leste decided to go for a redundant language as its national tongue; Portuguese. The Pacific rim tie-in may be a minor reason, but I'm willing to bet that the educated commercial elite of a future South America will be perfectly able to do business in English, which is already the lingua franca of business in this region. Bugger me, doesn't old Gloria have something more pertinent in which to squander her nation's tiny tax base? Porous borders? Terrorism? Declining food security? Rampant corruption? A resolution to the Mindinao insurgency? Creating jobs inside the country rather than having every Rizal, Erico and Maria having to *beep* themselves out or work crappy construction/factory jobs in Korea? |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| What's the Spanish word for barfine? |
la salida 
re "accents" - I'd bet that yes, they will teach "Castellano".
and re "mexican accent" - that depends on how you define that..
if you are talking about the "singing" type, used by the rural poor, including many immigrants in the US, it's super annoying, and no, you can bet that Spanish will NOT be taught/used, listened to.
but the EDUCATED people in Mexico, in DF, their Spanish is EXCELLENT, probably second only to educated Colombian Spanish, which is probably the purest form of Castellano in Latin America.
hopefully the Spanish teachers won't teach the Pinoys to lisp on their "c's"
it's the one thing about Iberian Spanish that drives me nuts.
way too faggoty for my taste. almost exaggerated.
if the pay is anywhere above survival wages, that could be an interesting gig... at least for a short while. hmmmmmmmmm 
btw dmitri, why is your avatar in Portuguese |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:29 am Post subject: |
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| Frankly Mr Shankly wrote: |
| Reminds me of when Timor Leste decided to go for a redundant language as its national tongue; Portuguese. The Pacific rim tie-in may be a minor reason, but I'm willing to bet that the educated commercial elite of a future South America will be perfectly able to do business in English, which is already the lingua franca of business in this region. Bugger me, doesn't old Gloria have something more pertinent in which to squander her nation's tiny tax base? Porous borders? Terrorism? Declining food security? Rampant corruption? A resolution to the Mindinao insurgency? Creating jobs inside the country rather than having every Rizal, Erico and Maria having to *beep* themselves out or work crappy construction/factory jobs in Korea? |
if the Spanish govt is funding the project.. why CARES?
she's not squandering anything - it's a "gift"
and looking ahead.. I'm getting suspicious of continued English dominance as the "lingua franca" - not in our lifetimes of course..
but if I had grandchildren, I'd be making sure that alongside English, they knew Mandarin, Spanish and Portuguese, perhaps with some Russian thrown in. |
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dimitri31
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:42 am Post subject: |
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| btw dmitri, why is your avatar in Portuguese |
I'm born and raised in America; yet in my heart, I feel for all things Brazilian! |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| dimitri31 wrote: |
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| btw dmitri, why is your avatar in Portuguese |
I'm born and raised in America; yet in my heart, I feel for all things Brazilian! |
I can understand.
gostoso!
tudo bem?
eu gosto las coisas brasileiras tambem! caipirinhas y meninas
if Brazil had the same ESL opportunities as Korea, it'd be heaven on Earth. |
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