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Asus Eee package deal with KT-Wibro about 285,000
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea what you are talking about 3 times. I guess you are just too smart for me. Actually, I am not convinced that what you wrote matters anyways.

Enjoy yourself, manofboat!
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
My "hating" was to counter all the fawning. It does 'work' for some people, but it really isn't what it could or should be.

Having said that, everything I have outlined this far is absolutely true.


Can't that be said from pretty much any piece of technology? I mean, I don't feel that we've yet reached the point where everything has become what it could and should be? Are you really completely satisfied with the computing experience?

I would argue that, because of the form factor and cost, it has opened up another perspective on computing...

To put it another way, the EEE is so popular because people felt that the computers that you seem to be satisfied with were not all they could and should be.

Is it ideal? Of course not. I mentioned battery... screen size given the same form factor would be a plus. Perhaps one of those butterfly keyboards from the IBM Thinkpads to make it a bit bigger. More SSD storage. bluetooth, GPS, etc. etc. Of course, a lof of those things can be added and are available today... for more money.

However, what Asus seems to have excelled at is offering a small, fully functional computer at a price where those people looking for a small computer see it as a good value. That's it!
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boatofcar



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Location: Sheffield, UK

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry bout the triple post.

Obviously, I'm just not one of those people who points and laughs at what so many people are happy with. I don't own an eee, nor will I ever (unless I can get one for under $100), but I certainly don't begrudge people that do just because it doesn't run fast enough for me, whatever that speed may be.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boatofcar wrote:
Sorry bout the triple post.

Obviously, I'm just not one of those people who points and laughs at what so many people are happy with. I don't own an eee, nor will I ever (unless I can get one for under $100), but I certainly don't begrudge people that do just because it doesn't run fast enough for me, whatever that speed may be.


Yeah, and goodness knows, the masses are usually right. If they are happy, it must be good.

You don't seem to be able to separate fact from fiction. Whom did I begrudge? I made no personal references to anyone, save perhaps a particular demographic I happen to have a strong distaste for.

Why wouldn't you buy one unless it is under $100?

@ IlIlNine:

No, I am not satisfied, but I do know that what I am getting is less of a line than with the ASUS thing. I have a fairly powerful machine which I assembled myself and got good value. Now, do I think that is really true? No...I am not naive. I know how it works. The ASUS machine is 70% hype, 5% innovation and 25% pricing.

I have said more than enough in this thread. If you want, need or like the ASUS, that is outside my point.

Oh yeah...boatofcar..I honestly didn't mean to call you 'manofboat'...for some reason, I had it in my head that that was your pseudonym. Sorry.
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boatofcar



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Location: Sheffield, UK

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Demophobe"]
boatofcar wrote:

Why wouldn't you buy one unless it is under $100?


Becuase I don't need one. I have an iPod Touch. It does everything I need a portable computer to do. If the eee falls to under $100, I'll buy it because I'll buy pretty much anything that looks neat under a hundred bucks.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boatofcar wrote:
[sic]Becuase I don't need one. I have an iPod Touch. It does everything I need a portable computer to do. If the eee falls to under $100, I'll buy it because I'll buy pretty much anything that looks neat under a hundred bucks.


boatofcar wrote:
Your Ipod touch can run XP and had 3 USB ports, a webcam, and can run Skype?


Wink

The Ipod touch isn't a computer.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a whole class of machines in roughly the same form factor or smaller and with CPUs that are just as 'crap.'

My EVERUN (www.raondigital.com) runs with 512MB, a AMD Geode 600MHz(roughly a P3) and a little rubber blackberry like keyboard. It also has a 4inch screen and a 60gig HDD. And it rocks for what it does.

The problem is that you're comparing the EEEPC to machines that it's not supposed to be compared with. Fact is a lot of people that do use computers have no need for anything faster than a Celly. What they want is smaller faster and cheaper.

First rule of computing is to have a computer. And people are more likely to have an EEEPC when they need it than a laptop they can't afford, or a desktop they can't move.

Having said all this, I wouldn't buy the current EEEPC. The MSI wind, or the HP or Dell netbooks I will as soon as it's practible to do so.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OneWayTraffic wrote:
There's a whole class of machines in roughly the same form factor or smaller and with CPUs that are just as 'crap.'

My EVERUN (www.raondigital.com) runs with 512MB, a AMD Geode 600MHz(roughly a P3) and a little rubber blackberry like keyboard. It also has a 4inch screen and a 60gig HDD. And it rocks for what it does.

The problem is that you're comparing the EEEPC to machines that it's not supposed to be compared with. Fact is a lot of people that do use computers have no need for anything faster than a Celly. What they want is smaller faster and cheaper.



If they are going to call it a PC or notebook, that is how it will be compared. I'm simply playing by their rules.
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boatofcar



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:

If they are going to call it a PC or notebook, that is how it will be compared. I'm simply playing by their rules.


Except that they don't. They're in a whole different class, whether they call it UMPC, Netbook, or whatever name they come up with. I've never heard anyone comparing these things to standard PCs and Laptops.

It's like comparing a PS3 or a 360 to a PC--the specs just aren't going to be close, but people buy a game console because it does what they want to do.
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boatofcar wrote:

It's like comparing a PS3 or a 360 to a PC--the specs just aren't going to be close, but people buy a game console because it does what they want to do.


No, it's not. "Console". "PC".

PC is in the name. Even if we are tolerant and let it