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chossmonkey



Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: public school Reply with quote

I've had offers to teach in Hogwans in Pusan from 2.1 to 2.3. The 2.3 was for a horrible location so I said no.

My question for you experienced teachers is if you were only offered 1.8 to teach in a public school would you take it? The hours are 9 - 5 but that includes teaching and preparing, plus a little free time to read or study korean (we do need to stay at the school though).

The more laid back atmosphere almost sounds worth it. What do you guys think?
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting 2.2 for exactly that. It's my second year in Korea, and I'm working at a decent High School.

I teach between 1-2.5 hours a day, and spend the rest of the time at school studying Korean and a little time here and there peeking in on Dave's. I only have to prep one lesson plan per week and I usually have it perfected by the week's end.

All PS positions are eight hour shifts, and most are between 20-22 hours a week. That means, all PS positions will give you plenty of free time and vacation, especially if you work at a High School. You shouldn't need to accept 1.8 because of a standard most jobs already have.

All PS jobs are laid back for foreign teachers. It's the nature of the work. Just don't make any waves and you'll find you have too much free time.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:50 pm    Post subject: Re: public school Reply with quote

chossmonkey wrote:
I've had offers to teach in Hogwans in Pusan from 2.1 to 2.3. The 2.3 was for a horrible location so I said no.

My question for you experienced teachers is if you were only offered 1.8 to teach in a public school would you take it? The hours are 9 - 5 but that includes teaching and preparing, plus a little free time to read or study korean (we do need to stay at the school though).

The more laid back atmosphere almost sounds worth it. What do you guys think?


ummm.... public schools start at 2.0 and go up.... depending on qualifications and experience.

Where did you get the 1.8 number from?

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chossmonkey



Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have more than one recruiter telling me that 1.8 is standard with no experience and no TEFOL cert. They said that if I waited a month and got my cert online, they would give me 2.0.

Both did offer a .3 bonus for signing plus one offered a .1 monthly bonus. It seems to be worth a substantial pay cut if it means I could sqeez in even one hour of studying each day while I'm at school. Plus I can always get my cert before my second year and make bank.

Oh yeah, and 14 days vacation.
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mekku



Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Location: daegu, korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: public school Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
I've had offers to teach in Hogwans in Pusan from 2.1 to 2.3. The 2.3 was for a horrible location so I said no.

My question for you experienced teachers is if you were only offered 1.8 to teach in a public school would you take it? The hours are 9 - 5 but that includes teaching and preparing, plus a little free time to read or study korean (we do need to stay at the school though).

The more laid back atmosphere almost sounds worth it. What do you guys think?


ummm.... public schools start at 2.0 and go up.... depending on qualifications and experience.

Where did you get the 1.8 number from?

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on the job posting board here on dave's, i have seen the vast majority of public school jobs begin at 1.8 "depending on experience and resume". so for someone there for the first year, it seems as though i would not start higher then 1.8 unless there is some negotiating.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EPIK with no experience and nothing more than a BA starts at 1.8.

Get a certificate before coming over, people.
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ardis



Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: public school Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
chossmonkey wrote:
I've had offers to teach in Hogwans in Pusan from 2.1 to 2.3. The 2.3 was for a horrible location so I said no.

My question for you experienced teachers is if you were only offered 1.8 to teach in a public school would you take it? The hours are 9 - 5 but that includes teaching and preparing, plus a little free time to read or study korean (we do need to stay at the school though).

The more laid back atmosphere almost sounds worth it. What do you guys think?


ummm.... public schools start at 2.0 and go up.... depending on qualifications and experience.

Where did you get the 1.8 number from?

.


The SMOE contract starts at 1.8, so...yeah. No experience and a regular BA (not English/Edu) gets you that.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems the public schools are really low-balling newbies. Perhaps they're relying on the reputation of most hagwons to get them recruits.
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting the feeling that GEPIK is better than EPIK. GEPIK starts at 2.0 with no experience and I managed to get 2.2 with only a year's worth of hagwon experience.
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Return Jones



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: I will see you in far-off places

PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this talk about not accepting less than 2.5 is bullshite. A shortage of teachers will not equal higher salaries at all. I've said many times that Korean economics don't work like that. Any job ad offering 2.5-2.6 is a lie. Once you apply, I personally guarantee they will try to lowball you by saying "Oh, 2.5 is for CELTA. Oh, 2.6 is for someone with a teacher's license, etc, etc."

Salaries are no different than they every were. 2.1 or maybe 2.2 is the standard for someone with a year of experience. Schools and hagwons would rather go without a teacher than pay more than that. This is the ESL industry in Korea. They don't look at the bigger picture and pay for experience and quality, they simply want cheap.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

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