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| Was the 1969 moon landing genuine or a conspiracy? |
| Yes, it was a fraud (explain why) |
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| Those that think it's a fraud are nutbags (reasons please) |
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| Damn, I can't make up my mind. |
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| Ha! No-one can land on the moon - it's made of cheese!!! |
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Grab the Chickens Levi
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Location: Ilsan
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 Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: WAS THE MOON LANDING FAKED? YOU DECIDE |
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First read the theories -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy
Then follow the links provinding documentary evidence for the moon landing being a hoax.
Then cast your vote!
You have a voice and your voice is valid!!
I voted for the 3rd choice as I really can't make my mind up. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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What about all of the other lunar landings? Were they also faked?
We're talking about a conspiracy that would involve the complicity of thousands of people. It's not like they let a few terrorists get away with flying airliners into buildings or something like that. |
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Bigfeet
Joined: 29 May 2008
Location: Grrrrr.....
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Easy enough to prove. Point one of those huge hi-tech telescopes to the moon and look for the lunar rover that was left there.  |
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Grab the Chickens Levi
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Bigfeet wrote: |
| Easy enough to prove. Point one of those huge hi-tech telescopes to the moon and look for the lunar rover that was left there. |
Problem is even the Hubble can only clearly see images of objects around 60 metres in diameter on the moon's surface, the lunar rover was far smaller than this.
Secondly, the objects could have been placed there by an unmanned flight. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Grab the Chickens Levi wrote: |
| Bigfeet wrote: |
| Easy enough to prove. Point one of those huge hi-tech telescopes to the moon and look for the lunar rover that was left there. |
Problem is even the Hubble can only clearly see images of objects around 60 metres in diameter on the moon's surface, the lunar rover was far smaller than this.
Secondly, the objects could have been placed there by an unmanned flight. |
If they had the technology to guides things from thousands of miles away they had the technology to put a man on the moon, so why not? |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
What about all of the other lunar landings? Were they also faked?
We're talking about a conspiracy that would involve the complicity of thousands of people. |
what he said. This would have to involve way too many people to remain a secret. |
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Grab the Chickens Levi
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Location: Ilsan
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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| JMO wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
What about all of the other lunar landings? Were they also faked?
We're talking about a conspiracy that would involve the complicity of thousands of people. |
what he said. This would have to involve way too many people to remain a secret. |
Not really.
The tens of thousands could have been employed in all of the areas of creating making it look as though they did send a manned flight to the moon. Only a handful of people actually in control and in the know would be neccessary. NASA, did have tens of thousands of people working constructing the nuts and bolts of the project. One team worked on the spacecraft hatch, another on the astronaut's boots, others working in every area of the project of course, yet none of them needed to have an overview of the entire project, only those at the very top of the bureaucratic pyramid.....
This of course would be genius give the people perpetuating the 'hoax' (if that is what it was, I am agnostic at the moment on this issue) all the more credibility, actually really going through all that build up and research on the project, launching the rocket and then having it never exit the earths atmosphere or orbit and then faking the moon landing photos and videos.
"Hey, we had over 10,000 people involved - how the hell do you think we coulda fooled all a them..." |
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Bigfeet
Joined: 29 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Did they ever find the high-resolution tapes of the first lunar landing? I can't believe it went missing. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Options #1 and #3 are really the same. Both are engaging in a cheap form of anti-Americanism. Further, skepticism run amok is some form of neurotic disorder and should be looked into by a professional. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Grab the Chickens Levi wrote: |
| JMO wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
What about all of the other lunar landings? Were they also faked?
We're talking about a conspiracy that would involve the complicity of thousands of people. |
what he said. This would have to involve way too many people to remain a secret. |
Not really.
The tens of thousands could have been employed in all of the areas of creating making it look as though they did send a manned flight to the moon. Only a handful of people actually in control and in the know would be neccessary. NASA, did have tens of thousands of people working constructing the nuts and bolts of the project. One team worked on the spacecraft hatch, another on the astronaut's boots, others working in every area of the project of course, yet none of them needed to have an overview of the entire project, only those at the very top of the bureaucratic pyramid.....
This of course would be genius give the people perpetuating the 'hoax' (if that is what it was, I am agnostic at the moment on this issue) all the more credibility, actually really going through all that build up and research on the project, launching the rocket and then having it never exit the earths atmosphere or orbit and then faking the moon landing photos and videos.
"Hey, we had over 10,000 people involved - how the hell do you think we coulda fooled all a them..." |
800 lbs of rock were returned from the moon. laser reflectors were placed on the moon.
If a robotic mission was used to collect these rocks and/or deposit the laser reflectors a NASA mission of huge scope would have been required. There is no evidence of such a mission. Therefore the thousands of people involved in this mission would have to be involved in the conspiracy.
If the rocks were faked, then thousands of geologists around the world are implicit.
You also have to wonder why the Soviet Union, who surely would have been able to expose a hoax, let it slide.
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| Another major achievement of the Luna programme, with Luna 16, Luna 20 and Luna 24 spacecrafts, was the ability to collect samples of lunar soil and return them to Earth, by 1970. The program returned 0.326 kg of lunar samples. The Luna missions were the first space-exploration sample return missions to rely solely on advanced robotics. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_program
Soviet robotic missions returned less than a kg whilst the secret NASA robotic mission returned over 800 lbs. Sure...
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| Options #1 and #3 are really the same. Both are engaging in a cheap form of anti-Americanism. Further, skepticism run amok is some form of neurotic disorder and should be looked into by a professional. |
this is not skepticism. Skepticism involves actual critical thinking. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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didnt America stick a flag on the moon!?
IM sure astrounomers have seen it plenty of times! the hubble could see it clear as day! and if that doesnt pick it up JWST will..
and not will USA need to cover this up , they will need china, russia to also not embarress them by saying, "we went to the moon and didnt your crap there"
IM saying USA went there! for sure.. dont very much buzz and armstrong would enjoy going around their whole lives to schools and on tv saying they were on the moon when they know deep down they didnt..
USA got there first.. im just curious why they have never gone back! just for the hell of it.. |
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knee-highs
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Location: yes
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:05 am Post subject: |
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the moon landing was fake
kennedy was killed by the CIA
Elvis is alive and well
Bin Laden works at a 7-11 in Jersey
the Loch Ness Monster is real
Bigfoot is in Korea
there is something under my bed
and my shit smells like roses |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
didnt America stick a flag on the moon!?
IM sure astrounomers have seen it plenty of times! the hubble could see it clear as day! and if that doesnt pick it up JWST will..
and not will USA need to cover this up , they will need china, russia to also not embarress them by saying, "we went to the moon and didnt your crap there"
IM saying USA went there! for sure.. dont very much buzz and armstrong would enjoy going around their whole lives to schools and on tv saying they were on the moon when they know deep down they didnt..
USA got there first.. im just curious why they have never gone back! just for the hell of it.. |
They went back 5 or 6 times you space cadet. |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: |
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I believe they went for sure, but I must say the video and audio equipment was not as good as used for regular TV and movies. It is common for military and government equipment to be substandard quality as compared to commercial quality equipment so it's not fake video. I mention this because this is the very thing that many associate with it being a conspiracy. Still today, they're using crappy quality cameras and microphones on the space shuttle. They did manage to get a couple of good still shots and even bring an IMAX camera up there.
The leadership position for space superiority is up for grabs in 2010 as the space shuttle is getting grounded in 2010. I guess America will be relying on Russian rocketry to delivery astronauts up there. I guess it's the beginning of commercial space exploration. |
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