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mekku
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Location: daegu, korea
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Culture shock, what culture shock ?? |
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MissSeoul wrote: |
Why American women try so much show their breast ??
All their clothes showed their breast more or less, why ?
These are a few of many many culture shock I had in America.
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because american women actually have breasts!
if korean women had them, their clothes would show them off too! but koreans really don't, so they wear really short skirts.  |
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Zenas

Joined: 17 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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The biggest one was when I found out women's dirty underwears at yard sale, they try to sale used women's underwear like old bras/panties at yard sale, it was not even clean looking, it was dirty. That was disgusting. |
Didn't need to go all the way to Hick'sville USA for that. Could've went next door:
http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.asp
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The shocking thing is that the interactions you have with the locals in your first week will be the same as the ones you have in your 1000th week. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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aka Dave wrote: |
One word in your post. Atlanta.
The American South. Generally indefensible in my opinion. There's a Washington Post article right now about how lots of Americans think Obama is a Muslim. And maybe gay.
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Spend some time in San Francisco, L.A., New York, you might get a different impression. America is a very diverse country, probably the most diverse country in the history of the world. You can't judge one part by the other. |
Oh come on. As if that didn't reek of stereotypes. Like the guy who said you wouldn't see weird sh*t like underwear selling in even the most remote locales up north. I remember my friend and I (both originally from NY) talking about how New York rednecks are far more fked up than anyone in the south. In the south they may be fundies married to their sister, but up north they keep the chopped up remains of their ex-wife/sister in the trunk of the rusted Buick on blocks in their front lawn and smoke crack through her hollowed out tibia.
San Francisco? Nothing but culture shock for people coming from un-gay locales.
LA? Step right up people, see the Third World in America!
New York! Well, yeah, not too far off there, but could be considered a cold and rude place by some. |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Ha |
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BigMikeAbroad wrote: |
I am gonna mention the tattoos because I have several. I think tattoos are becoming part of American culture so I can sorta see how it can be shocking. As for the why? We are an original and artistic people. Your body is your house; you put up knickknacks and pictures to remind you of important ideas and people in your life to remember them. One does the same thing with tattoos only its your body, its a way of defining ones individuality. The point isn't to get tattoos to be an individual , its a way of carrying fond memories with you, and helping yourself remember the truly important things without carrying fifty photo albums everywhere you go. The side effect is it makes you original because only you have and value those specific things in your own specific ways. I grant you some folks walk into a shop and say � Gimme that butterfly, its pretty.� But they are the minority.
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Here we go yet again with the "Arent we so individual. We're so artsy and cool and expressive. We lead the world and now tatoos are becoming part of the culture." Tatoos have been around for thousands of years, they are hardly new. Nothing against them really, but I dont see why someone would need one to express their individuality.
And exactly what is your problem with getting one cos its pretty? They might have been going through a time when they wanted to express their inner-prettiness, or been going through a time when they needed something pretty in their lives.
I bet theyre devastated when you throw your full intellectual might and originalty behind your story for your tattoos. But continue to do so because they are dragging you down |
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rusty1983
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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WE ARE ORIGINAL. WE ARE ORIGINAL. WE ARE ORIGINAL. WE ARE ORIGINAL. |
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branchsnapper
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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In Asia, gangsters and tattoos are closely associated. In the west, I have noticed that people with "hate" (or other things) tattooed on their face are not always the most friendly souls.
Lots of lovely people have tattoos, but come on, be honest. When they put you in a cell to serve out your 10 year sentence, do you want the cell mate who is covered in tattoos, or the one who isn't? |
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globalgirlk
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Livingston, La
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Geez, down here in la-la land...we marry our second cousin that was twice removed. Oh and if you are from Livingston parish...everyone is related to you in some way or another..."kinfolk"...I like ellipses.  |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Culture shock, what culture shock ?? |
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MissSeoul wrote: |
You guys say culture shock in korea, let me tell you my own culture shock in America. |
Why are you having culture shock in the US? Aren't you a fat white American dude? |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I never have, and never will understand why some people seem to just freak out about tattoos. |
I thought this was obvious. Some countries equate tattoos with gangsters. Japanese yakuza are famous for it, and many hotels, bars, and onsens will refuse to admit anyone with a tattoo for fear they are gangsters. |
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OnTheOtherSide

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
OnTheOtherSide wrote: |
I never have, and never will understand why some people seem to just freak out about tattoos. |
I thought this was obvious. Some countries equate tattoos with gangsters. Japanese yakuza are famous for it, and many hotels, bars, and onsens will refuse to admit anyone with a tattoo for fear they are gangsters. |
Yeah but this explanation does not go below the surface of the issue. Anyone with half a brain knows that most people with tattoos are not gangsters. That sort of thinking should have died along with the 20th century.
This issue reminds me of the racism issue. Some people just think in broadbrush strokes like that I guess. |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in America
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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aka Dave wrote: |
Spend some time in San Francisco, L.A., New York, you might get a different impression. America is a very diverse country, probably the most diverse country in the history of the world. You can't judge one part by the other. |
I am not like most korean in America, I've traveled more than 30 States, I've traveled every famously known place in America, however I've lived only in South, mostly it's in Texas.
America is huge huge country and if I ever have choice to live State another than Texas, it will be Santa-Fe, New Mexico, I don't know why I just fall in love that place.
Hey, I am a southern girl who love to eat crawfish, gumbo soup and red bean and rice  |
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Mr. BlackCat

Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's like this in Canada too. Welfare and other hand outs from the government sustain these parasites. They are no good for anything yet people treat it like a virtue to give them money, as if you are a 'good person' for handing them drug money when they ask you.
My girlfriend from China was surprised to see young guys on the street. You can easily get a job for $80,000 per year here if you are a young man and can read, working in the oilfields. Those shit-stains on the street prefer to be lazy alcoholics and/or drug addicts instead.
The only beggars I saw on the street in Thailand were people with no legs or arms. The beggars on the street in Canada are mainly men of working age who choose to be drug addicts or alcoholics. |
Wait, so they get welfare AND they live on the streets begging? Perhaps you should learn a bit about the system before you bash it so eloquently.
You can 'easily' get an $80,000/yr job where ever you are? Really? You just walk right in, and even though you have no permanent address, no experience, no education and no documentation, they'll put you right to work starting at an unbelievably high salary?
I've worked with homeless people back home and many of them need professional (and expensive) psychiactric care. Many others have been on the streets since childhood when they were abandonned by their parents or ran away due to horrendous abuse. Certainly some people abuse others' good nature and even the system. But I doubt you'd find many who would consider living on the street for 6 months of below freezing temperatures to be 'the easy way out'.
Anyway, sorry to interrupt. I just can't help but speak up when I hear things like this. The world really isn't that simple and not everyone has had it as good as you and me. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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OnTheOtherSide wrote: |
Anyone with half a brain knows that most people with tattoos are not gangsters. That sort of thinking should have died along with the 20th century. |
This type of "thinking" is just so you are not required to think at all. Why wonder if the tattoo represents a gangster, or not? It's much easier to just across the board ban them. Voila! No gangsters and no thinking involved.
Why do you think Zero Tolerance policies ( ) back home are so popular? |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in America
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: |
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OnTheOtherSide wrote: |
Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
OnTheOtherSide wrote: |
I never have, and never will understand why some people seem to just freak out about tattoos. |
I thought this was obvious. Some countries equate tattoos with gangsters. Japanese yakuza are famous for it, and many hotels, bars, and onsens will refuse to admit anyone with a tattoo for fear they are gangsters. |
Yeah but this explanation does not go below the surface of the issue. Anyone with half a brain knows that most people with tattoos are not gangsters. That sort of thinking should have died along with the 20th century.
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Unfortunately, in most Asian countries tattoo doesn't associate with good/honest/hard working people, it's often associate with gangesters or criminals. I didn't see any korean women who married to white guys who have tattoos, I am sure there are some, but I didn't see YET.
I never saw any korean men who have tattoos on their body, but I see American guys with tattoos all the time and I know they are good/honest/hard working people.
Some people think tattoos are wonderful/beautiful/great things to do, but another think it's ugly/terrible things to do. |
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DrOctagon

Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:51 am Post subject: |
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This is interesting, because I was actually thinking about getting a tattoo before I leave to Korea in August. I want to get something to show homage to my family, especially my parents. Now I'm rethinking my decision. Will I really be looked down upon by many Koreans? |
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