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Rumple

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: Uni Teachers: Curriculum help/advice? |
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Hi,
I'm starting my first uni job pretty soon, and I'll be teaching Freshman Writing and Sophomore Conversation.
I've got a conversation curriculum I can use for the sophomores, but for the freshman writing class, I've currently got nothing.
So, what I need is a writing curriculum for a full semester. One that uses a textbook would be good, as long as my students can easily get the books.
If it is a high quality curriculum, I'd be willing to buy one as well.
One of my problems is that I don't know what level the students are coming in at. I've asked the department chair a couple times, but he isn't able to give me a good answer (i.e. one that I understand). All I get from him is that their level is similar to each other, with a couple stragglers at each end.
So I'm not sure if I should start with basic sentences and work up to an essay, or if I should teach an elementary "Freshman Composition" course where I teach them the basics of term papers, or what.
Any and all help is appreciated.
EDIT: I've done a little reading, and it seems like a "process approach" is good, so extra points for anyone who can direct me to a process approach curriculum for writing. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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I have used the book, "Ready To Write."
http://www.amazon.com/Ready-Write-First-Composition-Third/dp/0130424633
You can find it in Korea at the major book stores. I used this book for university students, although most of them were juniors and seniors. Take a look at it, anyway. It spends a lot of time on learning to write a strong paragraph, step-by-step, and includes exercises in the book. |
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Thiuda

Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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When I put together a curriculum, the first thing I think about are my own strengths and weaknesses in regards to the subject matter that I'm being asked to instruct. Then I think about the theme of the class, which is usually provided by the uni, i.e. Basic-, Intermediate-, or Advanced Writing, Academic Writing...etc. Finally, I consider the level of students - which you might be able to infer from the name of your uni; Seoul, Yonsei, Korea Universities = doubleplusgood, Noname Rural Uni. = doubleplusungood.
Ask yourself the following questions:
How familiar are you with grammar and style? Are you familiar with the writing process (Pre-writing, Writing, Revising)? Do you know how to instruct students in the different ways of how they might organize paragraphs (by Time Order, Space Order, Order of Importance)? Are you able to teach academic writing (writing abstracts, thesis statements, organizing coherent paragraphs, citing properly...etc.)?
Based on your answers first select several textbooks that are appropriate for you. If you think, for example, that your grammar is a little weak, then you might want less grammar intensive books, like the Ready to Write Series (Scroll down to see all three of the texts; at our uni book store they run at 14k per unit). This series provides a lot of practice for the students and is easy to instruct if you know how to read. If, one the other hand, you're pretty grammar savy, then you might be comfortable teaching books that have a lot of grammar, like the Quest: Reading and Writing series.
I like teaching grammar intensive books, because I can focus on reducing common mistakes students make. Practice only books, like the Get Ready to Write series, are great, but I found that students often made the same mistake over and over again, never realizing that their writing was ungrammatical - you'll never have time enough to correct every students writing, every class, thereby making them aware of their errors. In contrast, teaching proper sentence structure has led to a significant reduction in errors in my classes.
Once you've selected a variety of books, think about the other factors that I mentioned above and further winnow down the choices. Finally, select a textbook and write the curriculum based on the contents.
Hope that helps. All the best. |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Uni Teachers: Curriculum help/advice? |
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Rumple wrote: |
Hi,
I'm starting my first uni job pretty soon, and I'll be teaching Freshman Writing and Sophomore Conversation.
I've got a conversation curriculum I can use for the sophomores, but for the freshman writing class, I've currently got nothing.
So, what I need is a writing curriculum for a full semester. One that uses a textbook would be good, as long as my students can easily get the books.
If it is a high quality curriculum, I'd be willing to buy one as well.
One of my problems is that I don't know what level the students are coming in at. I've asked the department chair a couple times, but he isn't able to give me a good answer (i.e. one that I understand). All I get from him is that their level is similar to each other, with a couple stragglers at each end.
So I'm not sure if I should start with basic sentences and work up to an essay, or if I should teach an elementary "Freshman Composition" course where I teach them the basics of term papers, or what.
Any and all help is appreciated.
EDIT: I've done a little reading, and it seems like a "process approach" is good, so extra points for anyone who can direct me to a process approach curriculum for writing. |
Please use the process approach with a one-on-one tutorial before the final draft. Otherwise, any feedback they receive from you will not help them.
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icnelly
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Location: Bucheon
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: Re: Uni Teachers: Curriculum help/advice? |
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Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
Rumple wrote: |
Hi,
I'm starting my first uni job pretty soon, and I'll be teaching Freshman Writing and Sophomore Conversation.
I've got a conversation curriculum I can use for the sophomores, but for the freshman writing class, I've currently got nothing.
So, what I need is a writing curriculum for a full semester. One that uses a textbook would be good, as long as my students can easily get the books.
If it is a high quality curriculum, I'd be willing to buy one as well.
One of my problems is that I don't know what level the students are coming in at. I've asked the department chair a couple times, but he isn't able to give me a good answer (i.e. one that I understand). All I get from him is that their level is similar to each other, with a couple stragglers at each end.
So I'm not sure if I should start with basic sentences and work up to an essay, or if I should teach an elementary "Freshman Composition" course where I teach them the basics of term papers, or what.
Any and all help is appreciated.
EDIT: I've done a little reading, and it seems like a "process approach" is good, so extra points for anyone who can direct me to a process approach curriculum for writing. |
Please use the process approach with a one-on-one tutorial before the final draft. Otherwise, any feedback they receive from you will not help them.
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Along the lines of what Kwanjuchicken said: process teaching often requires more in the way of input from teachers and students alike, and the degree of individualization involved can also present organizational problems, leading to disruption of "normal" teaching patterns.
Qoute taken from What the "Process Approach" Means to Practising Teachers of Second Language Writing Skills. |
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Rumple

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: Re: Uni Teachers: Curriculum help/advice? |
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icnelly wrote: |
Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
Please use the process approach with a one-on-one tutorial before the final draft. Otherwise, any feedback they receive from you will not help them.
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Along the lines of what Kwanjuchicken said: process teaching often requires more in the way of input from teachers and students alike, and the degree of individualization involved can also present organizational problems, leading to disruption of "normal" teaching patterns.
Qoute taken from What the "Process Approach" Means to Practising Teachers of Second Language Writing Skills. |
That's very informative. Thank you both.
(But I'm still taking suggestions from those of you that have them, so keep them coming!) |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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How did you get the job to begin with? Nothing personal, but you're asking people to do your job for you. |
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Rumple

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
How did you get the job to begin with? Nothing personal, but you're asking people to do your job for you. |
No offense taken. I'm asking for help, not asking someone to design a curriculum for me from the ground up. If someone has one that they've already used, I'd like to see it. If not, I'll put one together myself.
I'm always willing to share my work so that others don't have to reinvent the wheel, and so I don't have a problem asking for the same. It never hurts to ask (well, on Dave's it could if you don't have a thick skin, heh).
I purchased the books that were mentioned above, so I got something useful out of my request already.
If anyone pulls this thread up in a few months and is looking for a writing or conversation curriculum, PM me and I'll be happy to send you what I have. |
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makemischief

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: Traveling
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
How did you get the job to begin with? Nothing personal, but you're asking people to do your job for you. |
No offense meant..but careful on that slippery slope there Pragic. Personally I make my own materials- but really, where do you draw the line?
Teachers often use textbooks they didn't create (even if they decide HOW they will use them in class), and there are numerous respected websites for sharing lesson plans for free as well as markets for buying completed plans.
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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The OP wrote, "So, what I need is a writing curriculum for a full semester."
Not lesson ideas, not text ideas. I just calls em likes I sees em. |
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Rumple

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
The OP wrote, "So, what I need is a writing curriculum for a full semester."
Not lesson ideas, not text ideas. I just calls em likes I sees em. |
Yes, I need a writing curriculum. For a full semester. Describing one's needs can be a valuable part of asking for help. If someone understands your needs, they can better assess whether or not they can help you. I've gotten several helpful pointers because I have described my needs.
Thanks for the derision, though. Don't you have anything better to do? |
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makemischief

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: Traveling
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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@Tragic: How would this be different than following a textbook with accompanying curriculum created by the textbook writer?
In both cases the teacher does not outright create the material. It could be argued that HOW the teacher utilizes the material in the classroom is a far more important job for the teacher. As long as the teacher utilizes a good curriculum why is it vital that he/she creates it? Hopefully the in-class environment is geared towards the needs of the students... but taking a well thought out curriculum created by someone else as a starting point is not always a bad idea.
In many unigwons the options for deviating from a prescribed syllabus are limited at best.
You are making too many assumptions about a job that is not your own. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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Again, I'm just going by the OP. All I DO know is that I've been teaching at the university level for over 10 years, and that I've worked with some really great teachers over the years. If someone were hired who wanted a complete syllabus/curriculum for an entire semester, it would be a let down, to say the least. Actually, I've seen this happen, and the professional opion of that person was extremely low.
Many university programs have text that must be taught, and in some cases, even specific chapters are recommended. Sure, I know that teachers do bat around ideas for certain chapters or learning objectives. But an entire semester long plan of attack? Man, you guys are VERY giving.
I'm not saying it wouldn't be provided. My point was that the OP was hired to do a job which he/she isn't prepared to do.
And, no, as I'm leaving for a long vacation tomorrow, I don't have anythin better to do.  |
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makemischief

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: Traveling
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
My point was that the OP was hired to do a job which he/she isn't prepared to do. |
And that is precisely the point on which you appear to be wrong.
The OP was hired to TEACH a writing course, and hopefully do a spot-on job of it. The OP is making sure he/she has a good course in place for the fall with ample time to tweak it, despite not receiving detailed info from the admin (which IS their job, hypothetically). You can't frankly claim the OP is not doing a good job teaching the course before the course has even begun, and you can't claim the OP is not preparing for the course because that is what the OP is doing.
You may not like how the OP is preparing, but we are not debating whether teachers should or should not use a curriculum they have not designed. All good teachers share ideas, and utilize good ideas from others. We'd be daft not to. The OP is definitely taking an extremely liberal approach to this (and one I would not personally do- but that is JUST me), but it doesn't mean the OP will be unprepared to teach a good writing course in the fall that will help his/her students.
THAT is the job for which he/she was hired. Your judgments on his/her ability to accomplish that goal are without merit. |
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Rumple

Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
Many university programs have text that must be taught, and in some cases, even specific chapters are recommended. |
That's true, but not true in my case. I asked about the course description, they said "It's just writing." I asked about the learning objectives, they said "It's up to you." I asked them about a text, they said "It's up to you."
PRagic wrote: |
My point was that the OP was hired to do a job which he/she isn't prepared to do. |
I'd have told you that myself! This is my first uni job and I need a little more guidance than is currently being provided. This wouldn't be the first time someone was hired for a job they were unprepared for. At least I'm trying to get prepared before the semester starts.
PRagic wrote: |
And, no, as I'm leaving for a long vacation tomorrow, I don't have anythin better to do.  |
Fair enough.  |
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