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Gollywog
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ttompatz, the U.S.D.A. says the U.S. government has been testing for BSE since 1990 in the very first sentence of this report, and you say it hasn't.
Well, you must be right; if ttompatz says it's so, it must be so.
But you still haven't answered the challenge in the OP:
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There is no mad cow disease in the United States.
No one has gotten sick.
Now, would anyone like to offer scientific evidence to the contrary? |
Where is the scientific evidence there is a problem, in cows or people?
No one has provided any empirical evidence there is currently any problem, beyond the 2 or 3 cows that tested positive over 18 years of testing in the United States of America, which last time I checked did not include the provinces of Canada.
Where is the scientific evidence?
Or as Wendy's used to put it:
"Where's the beef?" |
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ttompatz
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| Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: |
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I guess there is NO BSE in the US.
There is NO-ONE in the US who has contracted or died from vCJD.
There is absolutely NO (0%) risk in the beef supply in the US.
It must be so because you say so even though every US government agency involved in the the matter disagrees with you.
Knock yourself out dude.
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Gollywog
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Gollywog
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bassexpander
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| South Korea refuses to test their cattle in sufficient number to check for the disease. That is a known fact. |
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toiletgod2000
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| South Korea refuses to test their cattle in sufficient number to check for the disease. That is a known fact. |
I was just wondering about that. More info please. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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This was also addressed in bulletins and FSIS Notices 28-04 and 29-04. Prior to that there had been no incidence of BSE in the USA and therefore no reason for testing. |
But, Tompatz (that's a combination of my dad and ex's first names.  ... the Koreans are testing it on your end, so why bother with that expense of double testing? The Shrubbies have overspent and are cutting back funding on anything that isn't (3letter word starting with) w... or that other (3letterword starting with) o..
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Even now there is NO routine testing for BSE, in fact the federal government is actively fighting against routine testing as indicated in recent US headlines.
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Like I said. Not if the stock feed was analyzed and found to contain no animal body parts. I don't really care if they find bone in the product. Analyze those for BSE, but those bones are not from the feed. Feed causing BSE have animal bi-product in it. It's been ground in from what's been hacked up at the slaughter houses. How many cattle already grown today have had such feed? As long as that practice has stopped, I'm happy.
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| No one has a stronger interest in protecting consumers from tainted meat than the businesses in the industry. Ultimately, safety is best assured when rooted in the self-interest of business firms and consumers. |
So, the bottom line is: What are the feed companies using these days? Corn's thru the roof with ethenol demand skyrocketing. The reason Business used the ground up bi-products which CAUSED BSE was a cost-cutting factor in the first place.
The govt. should be looking at those before the short cuts kill again. Talk about consumer safety. Talk about an easy source of protein for cattle--ended up bad juju, eh? I'm not going to say screw testing, but the feed plants need a good look-over too. Stop the cause, stop the issue. But make damn sure it's a true threat of the past.
(p.s. I'm an ex govt inspector. Highway construction was my game.)
And I don't like all the GM corn being produced either, but ..can you ever stop technology? |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| South Korea refuses to test their cattle in sufficient number to check for the disease. That is a known fact. |
I was just wondering about that. More info please. |
Thought I saw a link in one of these threads where the imports (product anyhow, not sure about their own) are being sampled and they've found pieces of eyeball and bone, etc. (I've been reading too many blogs  )
That's a good place for e-coli to start too, fluids and innards mixed in with the meat.  |
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Gollywog
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Japan has had 26 cases of BSE, mad cow disease. So whatever was causing it, presumably bad feed, made it to East Asia.
What do you think the chances are that it also made it to Korea?
Yet Korea has not reported any cases of BSE. Why? Was it because they did not import the same cattle feed as Japan? Does Korea just let the cows spend all day grazing on grass, like Australia?
If Korea finds people infected with vCJD, who do you think they are going to blame?
The United States has only had three cases of vCJD, out of 300 million people. And all of them got infected outside the U.S.
There is no mad cow disease in the United States.
Why?
The U.S. did not use the contaminated feed. |
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Fazer
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| Korean whiting! |
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