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I can't believe how insecure the (Changwon) drugs test was
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: I can't believe how insecure the (Changwon) drugs test was Reply with quote

I just did my official Kangsangnamdo medical check, which required my CT (I should say waegook handler - it's not like we actually co-teach) and I make a day of travelling to Changwon and visiting the approved hospital. Everything seemed fairly standard until wel got to the urine test. The guy at a counter gave me a little paper coffee cup with a USP code label on it and two little test tubes with caps. Then he pointed at towards the public toilets 50 metres down the corridor and told me to come back with some in each container. I could have brought along a container of anyone's urine and just poured it in there.

Then when I came back he was gone and my CT motioned for me just to leave it on the counter. So we're sitting there waiting as I'm watching a cup and two tubes of my urine sitting on a hospital counter in a lobby along with some other tubes of urine. People were coming and going and for a while there was no staff around. I could have dumped someone else's urine into my tubes or poured contaminants into other people's urine. Then the guy from the front desk returned and told me to put the cup of urine in a refridgerator in the lobby and the tubes in a wrack on top of it.

Maybe they also test the blood sample they took for drugs? If not, it must be the most cheatable drugs test in the world. If any druggies are worried about the test, just get a Kangsangnamdo public school job, have your test at their approved hospital, and make sure the person you borrow a jar a urine from isn't pregnant.
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diablo3



Joined: 11 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds typical about a country which is lax in safety, security and many other things.

I just hope no one made you pay for it. I never did.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They gave me two strips and told me to pee on them in the bathroom and then come back. I had two little containers , but those were just for holding them. It took me like five minutes to get the water flowing. In that time 2 other people had entered the washroom. I could have had a friend pee on them easily .
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, you'd think they would pay more attention to one's bodily fluids. I had to have my blood drawn twice because they lost my sample! Mad My Korean girlfriend said "That's common!" Shocked
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea, a land where no-one's in control of their urine.

Sorry, just taking the piss.

Looks like they're making a piss-poor job if it.
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Rob'sdad



Joined: 12 May 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easter Clark wrote:
Yeah, you'd think they would pay more attention to one's bodily fluids. I had to have my blood drawn twice because they lost my sample! Mad My Korean girlfriend said "That's common!" Shocked


That would've been cool if you took a dump and put in on the counter.
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diablo3



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is a necessity sometimes, what they do with it is up to them.
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KYC



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't that the norm for a urine test in Korea?

Granted, back home it's not as lax but it's not as if someone actually stands in front of you and make you pee.

I am disappointed with their "nurses." I had to have my blood drawn..and it took her a good 30 minutes to do it. She couldn't locate a vein and just kept pullign and sticking the needle in the arm Crying or Very sad
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Golem



Joined: 18 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hadn't thought about that but I suppose your right. It would be incredibly easy to pass a drug test in this country when administered like that.
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They just gave me a little stick to pee on in the toilets. Then bring it back and it changes colours on some various bits. I enjoyed walking back through the waiting room with a stick with my urine on, waving it about.

The 'nurse' gave me a f*king massive bruise when she took blood, I had it for about a week. It's a pretty new doctors that I go to, but sometimes I'm a little suspect with the hygiene.

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Then the guy from the front desk returned and told me to put the cup of urine in a refridgerator in the lobby and the tubes in a wrack on top of it.


Haha! Apart from the pregnant joke. It'd be so funny for them to come back and say "Erm.....it would appear from your sample that you're....erm.....Korean." Or if you're massively unlucky in a Doctors/Vets combo then they come back with "Erm....it would appear......that......you're a......erm.......wolf. Here's some tablets and some roadkill"
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KYC wrote:
isn't that the norm for a urine test in Korea?

Granted, back home it's not as lax but it's not as if someone actually stands in front of you and make you pee.

I am disappointed with their "nurses." I had to have my blood drawn..and it took her a good 30 minutes to do it. She couldn't locate a vein and just kept pullign and sticking the needle in the arm Crying or Very sad


I had to get a work-related drugs test in Canada. I had to go to a special clinic where I was escorted to the toilet. Before leaving me to do my business the nurse even put a special dye in the toilet water and sink (which she filled half with water) and put a seal on the tap sink so that I couldn't fill it up mostly with tap water. I suppose I could have smuggled in a container of someone else's urine but they sure made it a lot more difficult.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup... same thing happened to me at the largest hospital in a suburb of Seoul. Leave your pee in a test-tube above the urinal. You could borrow pee from any tube there.
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KYC



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:


I had to get a work-related drugs test in Canada. I had to go to a special clinic where I was escorted to the toilet. Before leaving me to do my business the nurse even put a special dye in the toilet water and sink (which she filled half with water) and put a seal on the tap sink so that I couldn't fill it up mostly with tap water. I suppose I could have smuggled in a container of someone else's urine but they sure made it a lot more difficult.


That's pretty crazy. I've had several government jobs back home in which I had to jump through crazy hoops to get. One of which was also a drug test..and it wasn't extreme. See the toilet, go pee in this cup. Thank you.

I think the urine test in korea is disgusting. I had to pee in a paper cup..the ones the coffee machine dispenses. All the nurse did was wrote my name on it with her sharpie then I went and peed in it. Then I left it on the table with the other "samples." How gross is that??
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same here - a paper coffee cup (no lid) just left on the shelf with others.

However, this being K-land it didn't surprise me in the least. I spent ten days in the hospital a couple of years ago and would stop toddlers playing with used hypodermic needles left out in an open box on the counter at the nurses' station Rolling Eyes... nurses wiping up blood with toilet tissue - no gloves.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some guy crapped in a paper cup and just left it there, steaming.
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