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Gollywog
Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Location: Debussy's brain
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:51 am Post subject: CNN: Japan cell phone ad portrays Obama as monkey |
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Just saw a piece on CNN about a cell phone company in Japan that ran an ad of someone apparently running for office in front of a cheering crowd with the head of a monkey.
Black expats in Japan were not amused.
The company denied any intention to portray Barak Obama as a monkey, and said monkeys are highly regarded in Japan. They pulled the ad.
What do you think?
All I can say is if it were Korea, the connection would have been intentional and understood by the viewer, even by a child.
I had a student who, upon seeing a picture of a black man on my computer monitor, which happened to have CNN.com up, pointed, laughing, and said: "Monkey! Monkey!" like it was some sort of hilarious joke.
Maybe the Japanese children are not taught to be racists, but apparently many Koreans are. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Try teaching Side by Side, book 1 (the blue book). Little shits I was teaching couldn't stop laughing at the black's portrayed in the book. I told them that when people in other countries laugh at Korean's dark skin, big lips, and big heads, it isn't funny, so they shouldn't do it either. It shut them up. |
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dtown

Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: CNN: Japan cell phone ad portrays Obama as monkey |
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Gollywog wrote: |
Just saw a piece on CNN about a cell phone company in Japan that ran an ad of someone apparently running for office in front of a cheering crowd with the head of a monkey.
Black expats in Japan were not amused.
The company denied any intention to portray Barak Obama as a monkey, and said monkeys are highly regarded in Japan. They pulled the ad.
What do you think?
All I can say is if it were Korea, the connection would have been intentional and understood by the viewer, even by a child.
I had a student who, upon seeing a picture of a black man on my computer monitor, which happened to have CNN.com up, pointed, laughing, and said: "Monkey! Monkey!" like it was some sort of hilarious joke.
Maybe the Japanese children are not taught to be racists, but apparently many Koreans are. |
Yeah, no other countries in the world would ever dream of doing something so heinous. Especially not in Europe. The fact that they (adults) throw bananas and make monkey noises whenever a black person touches the ball during soccer games is all coincidental.
Also, it's a little bit ridiculous of you to label other people as racist when you have the username gollywog don't you think? |
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milspecs

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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anyone remember the minstrel hello kitty figure Sanrio put out a couple yrs ago  |
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cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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He does kind of look like a monkey. |
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bovinerebel
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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If I saw a politician portrayed as a monkey , there is no way my mind would ever make the link between that and Barrack Obama. I'd think they were just having a go at politicians who are all freaking dancing monkeys aren't they ? |
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pkang0202

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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: Re: CNN: Japan cell phone ad portrays Obama as monkey |
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Gollywog wrote: |
Black expats in Japan were not amused.
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George Bush was often portrayed as a monkey, I bet they didn't complain then.
I don't see the big deal. If the ad had a bunch of monkeys picking cotton in Georgia then yeah, I'd say that's pretty f-ed up. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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I don't believe I have EVER seen a little tiny Japanese Macaque being used to represent Africans.
Forgive the crass sounding nature of the following comment (nothing is intended) but aren't chimps or gorillas usually the primates used to depict africans?
Japanese just love monkeys, thats all. Nothing else to it. |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: CNN: Japan cell phone ad portrays Obama as monkey |
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dtown wrote: |
Yeah, no other countries in the world would ever dream of doing something so heinous. Especially not in Europe. The fact that they (adults) throw bananas and make monkey noises whenever a black person touches the ball during soccer games is all coincidental. |
Holding soccer hooligans and the people behind what is probably a million-dollar ad campaign to the same standards is a bit off. One of those groups might not give a damn, but the other should know better. |
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Suwon23
Joined: 24 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I just watched it on Youtube
http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=si-lSLv9b4E
I wouldn't assume it was Obama, either, except the cheering fans were waving signs that say "change." That seems awfully "Obama"-esque to me. But it wasn't clear to me whether the monkey was a charicature of black people or just a cute, funny thing thrown in for entertainment value (oh, those quirky Japanese).
Both of the monkeys in the video are macaques, native to Asia. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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All I can say is if it were Korea, the connection would have been intentional and understood by the viewer, even by a child...Maybe the Japanese children are not taught to be racists, but apparently many Koreans are. |
I thought it was pretty clever of the OP to use an incident in Japan as a way to get in yet another dig at Korea. |
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Quack Addict

Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Obama? I think it was Hillary. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:48 am Post subject: |
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That ad had me laughing my tail off! |
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Gollywog
Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Location: Debussy's brain
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:38 am Post subject: |
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After looking at the entire ad online and reading the comments here, I agree the Japanese company did not intend to insult black people.
You want digs, here's another one.
Korea, and specifically Coreana, could learn something from how the Japanse company handled this: They promptly apologized and took the ad off the air. That is standard operating procedure for companies in the West; if something goes wrong, admit any wrongdoing quickly and move on. The issue blows over and the public, if anything, forms a relatively good image of you.
I don't think the ad was so much insulting to black people as it was insulting to Americans to have a presidential candidate clearly intended to represent Obama portrayed this way.
Again, it was unintentional. But a little cultural sensitivity is important. Asian countries need to realize their actions are visible to Western countries now. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Gollywog wrote: |
After looking at the entire ad online and reading the comments here, I agree the Japanese company did not intend to insult black people.
You want digs, here's another one.
Korea, and specifically Coreana, could learn something from how the Japanse company handled this: They promptly apologized and took the ad off the air. That is standard operating procedure for companies in the West; if something goes wrong, admit any wrongdoing quickly and move on. The issue blows over and the public, if anything, forms a relatively good image of you.
I don't think the ad was so much insulting to black people as it was insulting to Americans to have a presidential candidate clearly intended to represent Obama portrayed this way.
Again, it was unintentional. But a little cultural sensitivity is important. Asian countries need to realize their actions are visible to Western countries now. |
You know what, I'm sorry but F that. When was the last time ANY American, Canadian or Aussie ad company pulled an ad and apologized for doing anything that was considered absolutely harmless within their own country?
Oh,beavers, eagles and kangaroos are respected symbols in our country, but since you don't particularly care for them and as they represent some taboo analogy in YOUR culture, we will pull our ad.
What the hell is this world coming to?
If some Thai person asked me not to point my foot at him IN Canada, he would probably get my foot shoved up his freaking butt. |
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