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pecan



Joined: 01 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: Please explain the following... Reply with quote

I have my orginal diploma, my degree from university, good enough?

No, now they want me to prove that it is real, which isn't a problem, but one would think that the employer would want to check that, right?

I mean, they are basically asking me to prove the proof of my proof Confused Confused Confused !

My transcripts are arriving from my university, directly to them in a sealed envelope, yet they want me to verify them Confused Confused Confused !

One would think that my employer would want to verify them, right?

Again, they are basically asking me to "double" swear that what I am submitting is legitimate.

It kind of defeats the process and the purpose, if the potential employee is the only person involved in the verification process, doesn't it?

Sorry for the rant, but I can't wrap my head around why the employer wouldn't want to check these things out (it would be pretty easy for the employee to falsify records, etc. when the employee is the only one checking things...I mean, why do I need to check that my degree is real...I was there Shocked ). Doing it this way just makes a mockery of the intent of these safeguards.

Noone is safer or better protected with these steps, as they are being used. If the employer did the checking, things might change.

I need to verify that I am me, myself, and I. Wait...

Yeah, good enough Wink .

-Nut
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Katchafire



Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Location: Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I emailed my University, found the correct contact person .. Emailed them explaining that I needed some sort of written verification that I had indeed graduated from there - she wrote, signed, scanned and sent me a letter back as an Email attachment.

The Korean 'powers-that-be' were happy with that.
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pecan



Joined: 01 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, having it done is not a problem.

Do you follow my question?

You could have easily created that "verification" on your own.

-Nut
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dean_burrito



Joined: 12 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeay, i know what ya mean. my diploma is notarized but for some reason i still need to get it verified. it's was good enough last year but not this year. luckily my recruiter is going through some agency to get it done for me.
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travelingfool



Joined: 10 Mar 2008
Location: Parents' basement

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans don't understand what notarization is. At least here in the states, it doesn't validate anything and proves nothing. It only states that you are in fact the person swearing to the authenticity of a particular document. Koreans seem to think the notary will testify to the authenticity of the document itself, which is not what they do. It's like they are asking you to perform your own background check then not believing you. Why not just do it themselves? They could easily run an internet background check and also an online degree verification. Oh wait, that would make sense.
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pecan



Joined: 01 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!!! You just made my day Smile .

It's nice to know someone else understands (I wonder sometimes).

-Nut
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DongtanTony



Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

travelingfool wrote:
Koreans don't understand what notarization is. At least here in the states, it doesn't validate anything and proves nothing. It only states that you are in fact the person swearing to the authenticity of a particular document. Koreans seem to think the notary will testify to the authenticity of the document itself, which is not what they do. It's like they are asking you to perform your own background check then not believing you. Why not just do it themselves? They could easily run an internet background check and also an online degree verification. Oh wait, that would make sense.


Even though I do agree that Koreans don't know what a notarization is...let alone an apostille...there is a mechanism here in Korea to have your employer initiate the degree validation process.

The Korean Council for University Education

http://english.kcue.or.kr/

Your employer needs to initiate contact with this group. He/she will then receive a release form and a file for your university information. You must also submit a scanned copy of your diploma and the processing fee...which I believe is 25,000 won. I'm not positive about the fee since my employer paid for mine.

For newbies...or first time teachers coming to Korea...having your prospective employer use the KCUE may also give you an "interview" waiver. We just brought in two teachers, US citizens teaching in Prague the past few years, and their interview requirement was waived because of their verification through the KCUE.

Just food for thought....good luck everybody.
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pecan



Joined: 01 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/secure_area/DVEV/dvev_bridge.asp

The above organization provides a much better service for very little money.

-Nut
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