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Golem
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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I looked at that speed and power website with my wife (who is Korean). She tells me that the website only sells things and that its not a gym. KTT doesn't have as much Jiu Jitsu as I would like but I still think I might check them out sometime next week. |
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Return Jones

Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: I will see you in far-off places
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Golem
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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I should be heading to KTT today if all goes well. I will try to give you all a report on what it's like. That said, if you are serious about MMA you should google John Frankl and BJJ and try out his gym. |
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Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:07 am Post subject: |
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Please let us know. I'd like to find a good place with wrestling and it seems like KTT or Team Tackle are the best bets. |
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Golem
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Here is my first impression:
The gym is incredibly small and there wasn't an instructor present.
There also were very few guys close to my size to train with which means sparring is going to be a challenge (and not in the good sense of the word).
Instruction is all in Korean which may be a challenge to a foreigner such as myself (although by now I am used to it).
Their coach is a freestyle wrestler but according to the student who answered my questions he is only present on Tuesdays and Thursdays. MWF are supposed to be taught by MMA fighters who train at KTT.
They focus on a different skill each day of the week.
I live near this gym and yet I still question whether I want to train there despite the fact I would have to travel much further to train in Apgujeong with John Frankl or Suyu to train with M.A.R.C.
I am thinking about giving it a try for a month but plan to check out another BJJ school in Cheonho I heard about.
Team Tackle is supposed to be a legit place to learn Greco and the guy who runs it is a close friend of my wife's uncle and a famous wrestler in Korea.
I am starting to think cross training at different gyms is the way to go in Korea if you are serious about MMA. |
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raketbaler

Joined: 14 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Golem wrote: |
Here is my first impression:
The gym is incredibly small and there wasn't an instructor present.
There also were very few guys close to my size to train with which means sparring is going to be a challenge (and not in the good sense of the word).
Instruction is all in Korean which may be a challenge to a foreigner such as myself (although by now I am used to it).
Their coach is a freestyle wrestler but according to the student who answered my questions he is only present on Tuesdays and Thursdays. MWF are supposed to be taught by MMA fighters who train at KTT.
They focus on a different skill each day of the week.
I live near this gym and yet I still question whether I want to train there despite the fact I would have to travel much further to train in Apgujeong with John Frankl or Suyu to train with M.A.R.C.
I am thinking about giving it a try for a month but plan to check out another BJJ school in Cheonho I heard about.
Team Tackle is supposed to be a legit place to learn Greco and the guy who runs it is a close friend of my wife's uncle and a famous wrestler in Korea.
I am starting to think cross training at different gyms is the way to go in Korea if you are serious about MMA. |
Darn, it doesn't sound good. I don't want to join a bunch of different gyms. I just want to practice in Muay Thai, learn Jitz and have access to weights. |
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Golem
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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That is the same combo I would like if I can't find an excellent MMA gym. Muay Thai and BJJ is where it's at.
Where in Seoul are you? |
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Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Golem wrote: |
That is the same combo I would like if I can't find an excellent MMA gym. Muay Thai and BJJ is where it's at.
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Look for a place called Mapo Lion Boxing Gym.
You can do your Jits at Frankl's and Muay Thai at Mapo Lion. Apparently the hours at that place are great, although training costs would start to add up if you're paying for both of these. I have no idea about other Muay Thai gyms.
Here's what I got from someone who trained there (I'm still not in Seoul yet):
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mon-fri 9am-midnight
sat 9am-8pm
closed sun
holidays 10am-5pm
and just to be clear, there are no actual "classes" there in the traditional sense. you go in, they tell you to do something, then they go sit in front of the tv. if they don't tell you to do something, you're supposed to do what you did the day before.
i boxed for my first 4-5 months there, then switched to muay thai.
and just to be clear, there are no actual "classes" there in the traditional sense. you go in, they tell you to do something, then they go sit in front of the tv. if they don't tell you to do something, you're supposed to do what you did the day before.
i boxed for my first 4-5 months there, then switched to muay thai.
mapo lion is near the sinchon train station (not the subway station), across the main street from hotel mirabeau. |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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i boxed for my first 4-5 months there, then switched to muay thai.
and just to be clear, there are no actual "classes" there in the traditional sense. you go in, they tell you to do something, then they go sit in front of the tv. if they don't tell you to do something, you're supposed to do what you did the day before. |
I'm training there now, and this is spot on. It's a great workout, but I'm a little disappointed in the amount of instruction. They walk the floor and give pointers here and there, but they spend most of their time watching TV. |
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aboxofchocolates

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: on your mind
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry but anything in Sanbon? |
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Golem
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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This is a personal rant about a strong preference than a reaction to a previous post but....
I hate instruction like you describe (dude sitting in front of TV). I had a Muay Thai instructor in Korea that started out excellent and really involved with his student buts several months after opening his school became lazy and would just surf the internet the whole time. Sometimes he didn't even show up!
If I wanted training like that I could just by a heavy bag and use instructional videos on-line. I might as well be learning Katas if I can't spar or work pads.
Rant Finished. I live on the purple line near Gunja myself. Apgujeong is a bit far. M.A.R.C. is at least close to where I work but when I train there I don't get home till far to late. |
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Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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seoulsucker wrote: |
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i boxed for my first 4-5 months there, then switched to muay thai.
and just to be clear, there are no actual "classes" there in the traditional sense. you go in, they tell you to do something, then they go sit in front of the tv. if they don't tell you to do something, you're supposed to do what you did the day before. |
I'm training there now, and this is spot on. It's a great workout, but I'm a little disappointed in the amount of instruction. They walk the floor and give pointers here and there, but they spend most of their time watching TV. |
How do you get your technique corrected??? The gym seems no better than just having a heavy bag, which already comes free with my weights gym.
And I heard there were quite a few Olympic boxers that originated out of Seoul. I wonder where they trained at. |
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Golem
Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I am still curious about that speed and power place. Does anyone know what experience the trainers there have? How did you hear about it? |
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Return Jones

Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: I will see you in far-off places
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Golem wrote: |
I am still curious about that speed and power place. Does anyone know what experience the trainers there have? How did you hear about it? |
It looks like the equipment is really good, but the training methods look something like Crossfit. I'm recovering from surgery right now, but I plan to check the place out in a month or so.
http://videolog.blog.naver.com/sapzilnv/3000024153 |
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Return Jones

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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, just curious about John Frankl. From what I've read, he's a pretty well-rounded guy. Does he teach BJJ full-time, or is he also doing something else here in Korea? Just wondering... |
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