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Teaching in Korea through the TaLK program
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KoronoXyl



Joined: 27 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Teaching in Korea through the TaLK program Reply with quote

I was planning on working in Korea after graduation, and now I'm thinking that I'll try this program out first. I'm assuming that most of the people hired will be working out in the country; I don't mind that. Because of what I've read here, I'm expecting some problems, but I think that it's a good opportunity to get some experience in ESL work.

Overall, I'm really excited about getting to Korea, and I want to make it there ASAP. Do any of the more experienced teachers have some advice? Do you think that the completion of this program would have any worth in the eyes of a hakwon employer?

Oh, and I do plan to continue my college work online for the duration of the contract (6 months).
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hagwons will employ anyone regardless of what they did or didn't do in the past. In terms of advice, just keep browsing on here. The bigger picture will start to appear after a week or so.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a brand new program and you are part of the first intake.

In my humble opinion, you would be better off completing your studies and then getting here on an E2.

I hope you have a great experience but from my personal experience with government programs in their initial stages you may find that it will end up being little better than indentured labor.

Learn to say the magic word, "NO" or prepare to get crapped on.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz is right, no one knows what to expect. Make sure their contracts are very clear and make sure you can easily ditch the program and go back home.

On the flipside, if you do the TALK program and want to return to Korea in the future, you should be able to get a better position and better pay based on your experience in the TALK program.

I've talked with a person involved on the Korean side of the TALK program. They are expecting a lot of gyopos (Korean-Americans, Korean-Australians, Korean-________), so you may want to discuss your "interest in Asia and interest in Korea." Actually, mention what you've read about Korea and how it sounds wonderful, they eat that shit up here.
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KoronoXyl



Joined: 27 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, thanks for all of the advice. I do actually have an interest in Korea, which I did mention in my application. I really love their movies, though they have been sucking lately. Also, the whole ESL scene down there sounds interesting, like some kind of alternate universe.

I applied for the February position, and from what I understand, there will be one section before mine that starts in August. I'll be sure to check in on what the first wave of applicants has to say about the whole deal.

Thanks again!
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KoronoXyl wrote:


I applied for the February position, and from what I understand, there will be one section before mine that starts in August. I'll be sure to check in on what the first wave of applicants has to say about the whole deal.
Thanks again!


WTF! RUN!!!!!! Shocked

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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
On the flipside, if you do the TALK program and want to return to Korea in the future, you should be able to get a better position and better pay based on your experience in the TALK program.


Unless it's the government, and then your pay is only higher if you have at least 1 year of experience.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KoronoXyl wrote:
Also, the whole ESL scene down there sounds interesting, like some kind of alternate universe


It's not an alternate universe, it's a bizzaro universe.

You will find: the food 'sucks', everything you know is wrong, everything is done/decided at the last possible minute, you will not be told anything, logic does NOT apply, and (physically) nothing is plumb, level or square.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marlow wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
On the flipside, if you do the TALK program and want to return to Korea in the future, you should be able to get a better position and better pay based on your experience in the TALK program.


Unless it's the government, and then your pay is only higher if you have at least 1 year of experience.


I'm talking about negotiating higher pay through experience with a hogwan, or landing a better job like public schools due to the experience in Korea vs. coming here straight out of college.
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KoronoXyl



Joined: 27 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not an alternate universe, it's a bizzaro universe.

You will find: the food 'sucks', everything you know is wrong, everything is done/decided at the last possible minute, you will not be told anything, logic does NOT apply, and (physically) nothing is plumb, level or square.


Sounds awesome.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
marlow wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
On the flipside, if you do the TALK program and want to return to Korea in the future, you should be able to get a better position and better pay based on your experience in the TALK program.


Unless it's the government, and then your pay is only higher if you have at least 1 year of experience.


I'm talking about negotiating higher pay through experience with a hogwan, or landing a better job like public schools due to the experience in Korea vs. coming here straight out of college.


It would help for a hagwon, I'm sure. Especially since they'll probably work at one when they are here.

EPIK won't recognize anything less than 1 year experience for higher levels, though.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one should be working LEGALLY, in Korea, for 1.6. Rolling Eyes
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KoronoXyl



Joined: 27 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No one should be working LEGALLY, in Korea, for 1.6. Rolling Eyes


It's not work; it's a scholarship program. Wink
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KoronoXyl wrote:
Quote:
No one should be working LEGALLY, in Korea, for 1.6. Rolling Eyes


It's not work; it's a scholarship program. Wink



LOL..... you are doing the same thing that PS - E2s do except you do it for less money and in places where we don't want to go.

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jangsalgida



Joined: 11 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will you be working an "After-School Program?" Be sure to ask them whether you are considered an empoyee or an "Independent Contractor/Free Lancer."

If you aren't considered an employee, expect to be taxed up the butt. If you are paid per student/according to how many students you have, you will probably be considered an "Independent Contractor/Free Lancer."

They do this to E-2 Visa holders even though I believe it is illegal, and from what I understand you won't even be an E-2 Visa holder. Therefore, I don't think it will be illegal for them to tax you at a high rate. Be prepared to get screwed!
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