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MA_TESOL
Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Please Comment on this quote |
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Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing.
Helen Keller
When you give it some thought, there is no REAL security in this world. With that information, how do you live? Do you try to accumulate for the future and give yourself over worry? Do you live just for today? How does one address this issue? In my opinion, most people in the West live in false security. I am wrestling with this whole question right now |
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Underwaterbob
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| It's a quotation, not a "quote". |
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ernie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| it's a stupid message board, not a thesis paper |
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MA_TESOL
Joined: 11 Nov 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Underwaterbob wrote: |
| It's a quotation, not a "quote". |
right you are sir, my mistake
oh, I have my PADI Rescue |
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Underwaterbob
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| ernie wrote: |
| it's a stupid message board, not a thesis paper |
calm |
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ernie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| just correcting you |
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Stormy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ernie wrote: |
| it's a stupid message board, not a thesis paper |
It's a stupid internet forum not a stupid message board. |
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ernie
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| i stand corrected. |
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relaxed111
Joined: 26 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hum...as for the original concept, please living with false hope exists with all societies, not just western. There may be different levels of this false hope, but it is there for all.
But, stop how do you go on living? How can you not? Living is taking risks, calculated yes. We do it automatically because we have grown up with it. Just because you are now having it in your face. Just means you have understood that it is happening all the time around you. Does this worry mean the end of eating fatty foods, or loving a bungy jump. Well, that is your decsion, just like the others you have been doing everyday of your life.
Through out history we all die, so why not think instead about living your life well. |
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Jandar
Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone who believes in absolute good or absolute safety or any other absolute is a sophist of the highest order.
After even time is but an illusion.
(Thank you uncle Albert) |
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Nowhere Man
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone who believes in absolute good or absolute safety or any other absolute is a sophist of the highest order. |
What about absolute uncertainty  |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Please Comment on this quote |
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| MA_TESOL wrote: |
Security is mostly a superstition.
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It depends on how you define security. If you define it as something unchanging and indefinite then it is a myth. Security does exist in nature, otherwise there would be no animals alive today.
You could flip it around and say that insecurity is mostly a superstition. Take the rabbits in the field, they're secure aren't they? If you look at it theoretically you could find a million different ways in which the rabbit might be doomed...that's your imagination though, reality has millions of fluffy rabbits living in burrows.
I'm secure right now. You could say, well the roof might collapse or I might choke etc....but that's just speculation. The truth is that I am secure and I have been for 29 years of my life. Even if the roof does collapse, I've still been secure 99.999% of my life.
The fear of not being secure is far more common than any actual threat to your welfare. |
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blurgalurgalurga
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Right, 'the only thing we have to fear is fear itself' and all that. Quite right, t-funk.
But then, if we fear fear, and if worrying does us harm, worriers are continually failing to enjoy what is in fact security and safety. And if we are worrying then we're not safe from ourselves, because worrying harms us and causes us pain; therefore, security is in fact rare as hell.
The real trick would be to never worry or fear unless it was a real threat I guess. |
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fortysixyou
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| "Get busy living, or get busy dying." |
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JamesFord
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| "Yoo-hoo......... I'll make you famous!!!!" |
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