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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:14 pm    Post subject: I Overreacted... Reply with quote

I'm on break at my second job- an after school program at an elementary school.

While teaching, one of the students came in late. I told him to sit down and went back to teaching. Shortly after I felt someone kick the back of my leg, near the foot. I turned around to see the student that had come in late running away; he had kicked me!

I chased after him, hauled him in the hallway and with my voice raised (not yelling though) I told my co-teacher the situation. I then took his bags and told him that he could go home. A few minutes later my co-teacher told me he was "just playing." He looked apologetic and I let him back in.

Unfortunately one of the parents was in the hallway at the time talking to my co-teacher. She apparently ran off and didn't answer the phone when my co-teacher called her. My co-teacher is livid.

I did react too strongly, but at the same time, what would happen if a child were to kick a Korean teacher during a lesson, even in play? There would be trouble, I imagine.

Opinions? I'm worried about the fallout regarding the parents and management.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, just say that you didn't realize the boy was playing, and you thought he was being disrespectful, and that it was a misunderstanding, and just smile as if nothing happened. Be all nice and apologetic. Don't get too stuck on it. That's my advice.
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Tobias



Joined: 02 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: I tell you what... Reply with quote

I tell you what...if it would have been ME, I would have caught up with him and TASERed his ass! Just kidding. So what. He kicked you. You could have been teaching at a ghetto school in the USA and had a knife pulled on you. Or worse.

You gotta play games with these brats. Cause him to lose face down the road somewhere. That'll work better in this situation, plus you won't be risking your neck.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: I Overreacted... Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:

I did react too strongly, but at the same time, what would happen if a child were to kick a Korean teacher during a lesson, even in play? There would be trouble, I imagine.


Will that day ever come where they see us as equal? Not in my E2's lifetime.

Listen to Adventurer
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: I Overreacted... Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
I'm on break at my second job- an after school program at an elementary school.

While teaching, one of the students came in late. I told him to sit down and went back to teaching. Shortly after I felt someone kick the back of my leg, near the foot. I turned around to see the student that had come in late running away; he had kicked me!

I chased after him, hauled him in the hallway and with my voice raised (not yelling though) I told my co-teacher the situation. I then took his bags and told him that he could go home. A few minutes later my co-teacher told me he was "just playing." He looked apologetic and I let him back in.

Unfortunately one of the parents was in the hallway at the time talking to my co-teacher. She apparently ran off and didn't answer the phone when my co-teacher called her. My co-teacher is livid.

I did react too strongly, but at the same time, what would happen if a child were to kick a Korean teacher during a lesson, even in play? There would be trouble, I imagine.

Opinions? I'm worried about the fallout regarding the parents and management.


You did NOT react too strongly. Refuse to apologize under any circumstances. If any of my students dared to kick me they'd be doing the old kneeling with arms in the air thing. Oh he was "playing"...well so am I and this is the game. Not a lot of fun is it?

Offer to kick your co-teacher and tell her not to get upset because "You are just playing". That should get the message across. Make sure they understand that any form of physical assault is unacceptable...it doesn't matter if it's playful or otherwise. Or they can find themselves another teacher...I won't work in an enviroment where assault of a teacher is considered "playing"
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idiotinkorea



Joined: 25 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whenever you enter a class-room, it's psych-warfare. whatever happens, you can't freak out or you'll loose your "face" and nobody respects you.
it's all a game. just preserve your "face". you can freak out or cry at home.
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd put this in the same category as a student trying to Ddong Chim you. That's only playing. What would you do for that?
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: I tell you what... Reply with quote

Tobias wrote:
So what. He kicked you. You could have been teaching at a ghetto school in the USA and had a knife pulled on you. Or worse.


Yeah, you could have been teaching in a concentration camp in 1943. Or been in Kenya where a student decided to throw butter on you and that butter turned into a tiger and ate you!!! Shocked

The kid wouldn't kick a Korean teacher, damn sure better let him and the rest know they aren't to kick you either.

edited: for not knowing Japanese keyboards


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bobranger



Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He wasn't playing with you. He played the co-teacher so to speak. Either way it is unacceptable behavior. You did the right thing.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Re: I Overreacted... Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
cdninkorea wrote:
I'm on break at my second job- an after school program at an elementary school.

While teaching, one of the students came in late. I told him to sit down and went back to teaching. Shortly after I felt someone kick the back of my leg, near the foot. I turned around to see the student that had come in late running away; he had kicked me!

I chased after him, hauled him in the hallway and with my voice raised (not yelling though) I told my co-teacher the situation. I then took his bags and told him that he could go home. A few minutes later my co-teacher told me he was "just playing." He looked apologetic and I let him back in.

Unfortunately one of the parents was in the hallway at the time talking to my co-teacher. She apparently ran off and didn't answer the phone when my co-teacher called her. My co-teacher is livid.

I did react too strongly, but at the same time, what would happen if a child were to kick a Korean teacher during a lesson, even in play? There would be trouble, I imagine.

Opinions? I'm worried about the fallout regarding the parents and management.


You did NOT react too strongly. Refuse to apologize under any circumstances. If any of my students dared to kick me they'd be doing the old kneeling with arms in the air thing. Oh he was "playing"...well so am I and this is the game. Not a lot of fun is it?

Offer to kick your co-teacher and tell her not to get upset because "You are just playing". That should get the message across. Make sure they understand that any form of physical assault is unacceptable...it doesn't matter if it's playful or otherwise. Or they can find themselves another teacher...I won't work in an enviroment where assault of a teacher is considered "playing"


It's kinda like the old frendly fire thing. I can remember having to teach the class alone. I came in early. Just as I walked in a book flew into the front of the classroom. If I had been there five seconds sonner that book would have hit me.
If that book would have hit me there would have been hell to pay for the moron who threw it. It's a school for Gods sake not a Zoo.
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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not apologize and do not accept their explanation. Demand an apology from the student.
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Join Me



Joined: 14 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any adult that thinks it is acceptable for a child (their student no less) to kick them is a fool. What are you teaching a child by allowing him or her to get away with this? This country is fool of foolish adults...doesn't mean any of us have to go along with it.
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EricaSmile84



Joined: 23 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students get physically punished for what I'd consider to be minor offenses. One of my students came to school with curly hair so a teacher held her head under a cold faucet in the hallway sink-- in front of everyone. Other ones get hit for not having their socks pulled up or having crooked nametags.

I would say that a student who kicks a teacher would be more worthy of punishment that what I described above. Whether or not he was "playing around" he still interrupted your class... he should apologize and your co-workers should support you....

.... but then again, nothing else makes sense in these broken schools.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
Oh, just say that you didn't realize the boy was playing, and you thought he was being disrespectful, and that it was a misunderstanding, and just smile as if nothing happened. Be all nice and apologetic. Don't get too stuck on it. That's my advice.


This receives R's vote: WORD!


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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You definitely over reacted. Anyone that's taught or has kids can tell you that's a drop in the bucket of what kids will do. Good news is it means you haven't intimidated them, otherwise they wouldn't even approach you. Bad news is...you haven't intimidated them. Laughing
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