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bucheon bum
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 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Congresswoman proposes national speed limit of 60 MPH |
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Congress is searching for ways to address rising gas prices, and one Bay Area lawmaker thinks she's found one: Lower the speed limit on highways.
Rep. Jackie Speier, D-Hillsborough, in her first bill as a member of Congress, is proposing a national speed limit of 60 mph for freeways in urban areas and 65 mph in less populated areas. |
Yeah, that's a genius idea. I'm sure it will do wonders. As if anyone abides by the speed limit now. Good way for local governments to get more money via speeding tickets though. |
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Pluto
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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What a STUPID IDEA!!!
Better idea! |
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sojourner1
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Just another way to slow down Americans and further put them behind the 8 ball. And then the law will clamp down harder on speeders for more revenues which will further put strapped Americans lower in the downward spiral. The political and legal systems are only about imposing oppression. Go figure. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmmm...were all you guys wearing diapers when the gov't lowered the speed limit on the interstates from 70/75 down to 50? |
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Milwaukiedave
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Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Wow and how many signs are going to have to be changed on the highways? Yes, it sounds like a very dumb idea. Is 5 mph really going to make that much of a difference? |
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The Bobster
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Wow and how many signs are going to have to be changed on the highways? Yes, it sounds like a very dumb idea. Is 5 mph really going to make that much of a difference? |
Read somewhere that Montana has no speed limits at all. Imagine that! And just think of all the money they save on signs! Wow! |
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crsandus
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Wow and how many signs are going to have to be changed on the highways? Yes, it sounds like a very dumb idea. Is 5 mph really going to make that much of a difference? |
Yes.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/03/warner.speed.limit.ap/index.html
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- An influential Republican senator suggested Thursday that Congress might want to consider reimposing a national speed limit to save gasoline and possibly ease fuel prices.
Sen. John Warner has asked the Energy Department at what speeds vehicles would be most fuel efficient.
Sen. John Warner, R-Virginia, asked Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman to look into what speed limit would provide optimum gasoline efficiency given current technology. He said he wants to know if the administration might support efforts in Congress to require a lower speed limit.
Congress in 1974 set a national 55 mph speed limit because of energy shortages caused by the Arab oil embargo. The speed limit was repealed in 1995 when crude oil dipped to $17 a barrel and gasoline cost $1.10 a gallon.
As motorists headed on trips for this Fourth of July weekend, gasoline averaged $4.10 a gallon nationwide, with oil hovering around $145 a barrel.
Warner cited studies that showed the 55 mph speed limit saved 167,000 barrels of oil a day, or 2 percent of the country's highway fuel consumption, while avoiding up to 4,000 traffic deaths a year.
"Given the significant increase in the number of vehicles on America's highway system from 1974 to 2008, one could assume that the amount of fuel that could be conserved today is far greater," Warner wrote Bodman.
Warner asked the department to determine at what speeds vehicles would be most fuel efficient, how much fuel savings would be achieved, and whether it would be reasonable to assume there would be a reduction in prices at the pump if the speed limit were lowered.
Energy Department spokeswoman Angela Hill said the department will review Warner's letter but added, "If Congress is serious about addressing gasoline prices, they must take action on expanding domestic oil and natural gas production."
The department's Web site says that fuel efficiency decreases rapidly when traveling faster than 60 mph. Every additional 5 mph over that threshold is estimated to cost motorists "essentially an additional 30 cents per gallon in fuel costs," Warner said in his letter, citing the DOE data.
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http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
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Observe the Speed Limit
While each vehicle reaches its optimal fuel economy at a different speed (or range of speeds), gas mileage usually decreases rapidly at speeds above 60 mph.
You can assume that each 5 mph you drive over 60 mph is like paying an additional $0.30 per gallon for gas.
Observing the speed limit is also safer.
Fuel Economy Benefit: 7-23%
Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.29-$0.94/gallon
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Bigfeet
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| Lower it back down to what it used to be, 55. This will also decrease suburban sprawl. |
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Bryan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Lower it back down to what it used to be, 55. This will also decrease suburban sprawl. |
Some people like living in homes with their families rather than raising their children in apartments in crime ridden downtown neighbourhoods. Go sprawl! |
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Bigfeet
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Some people like living in homes with their families rather than raising their children in apartments in crime ridden downtown neighbourhoods. Go sprawl! |
No problem, go to the poorhouse paying for gas. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Wow and how many signs are going to have to be changed on the highways? Yes, it sounds like a very dumb idea. Is 5 mph really going to make that much of a difference? |
Yes.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/03/warner.speed.limit.ap/index.html
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WASHINGTON (AP) -- An influential Republican senator suggested Thursday that Congress might want to consider reimposing a national speed limit to save gasoline and possibly ease fuel prices.
Sen. John Warner has asked the Energy Department at what speeds vehicles would be most fuel efficient.
Sen. John Warner, R-Virginia, asked Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman to look into what speed limit would provide optimum gasoline efficiency given current technology. He said he wants to know if the administration might support efforts in Congress to require a lower speed limit.
Congress in 1974 set a national 55 mph speed limit because of energy shortages caused by the Arab oil embargo. The speed limit was repealed in 1995 when crude oil dipped to $17 a barrel and gasoline cost $1.10 a gallon.
As motorists headed on trips for this Fourth of July weekend, gasoline averaged $4.10 a gallon nationwide, with oil hovering around $145 a barrel.
Warner cited studies that showed the 55 mph speed limit saved 167,000 barrels of oil a day, or 2 percent of the country's highway fuel consumption, while avoiding up to 4,000 traffic deaths a year.
"Given the significant increase in the number of vehicles on America's highway system from 1974 to 2008, one could assume that the amount of fuel that could be conserved today is far greater," Warner wrote Bodman.
Warner asked the department to determine at what speeds vehicles would be most fuel efficient, how much fuel savings would be achieved, and whether it would be reasonable to assume there would be a reduction in prices at the pump if the speed limit were lowered.
Energy Department spokeswoman Angela Hill said the department will review Warner's letter but added, "If Congress is serious about addressing gasoline prices, they must take action on expanding domestic oil and natural gas production."
The department's Web site says that fuel efficiency decreases rapidly when traveling faster than 60 mph. Every additional 5 mph over that threshold is estimated to cost motorists "essentially an additional 30 cents per gallon in fuel costs," Warner said in his letter, citing the DOE data.
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http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
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Observe the Speed Limit
While each vehicle reaches its optimal fuel economy at a different speed (or range of speeds), gas mileage usually decreases rapidly at speeds above 60 mph.
You can assume that each 5 mph you drive over 60 mph is like paying an additional $0.30 per gallon for gas.
Observing the speed limit is also safer.
Fuel Economy Benefit: 7-23%
Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.29-$0.94/gallon
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While it is true that slower speeds save gas, shouldn't it be a driver's choice on how fast he can go? And not the gov'ts? If we want to save gas, let us do it. |
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Bigfeet
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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I can't believe that Americans are starting to buy smaller cars and not the huge SUVs and trucks. Everybody knows that larger cars are safer.  |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Wow and how many signs are going to have to be changed on the highways? Yes, it sounds like a very dumb idea. Is 5 mph really going to make that much of a difference? |
Read somewhere that Montana has no speed limits at all. Imagine that! And just think of all the money they save on signs! Wow! |
I thought parts of Nevada were the same way, but I'm not sure.
The ironic thing about this is that part of the money they'd have to spend to put up all those signs (or change them in most cases) would be spend on....yeah you guessed it GAS! |
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RJjr
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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While there shouldn't be speed limits in a free country, a lot of people in America complain about gas prices but don't seem to understand that their speeding is not only costing them more money personally, but it's also increasing the amount of fuel they consume ... decreasing the supply of gas in America and increasing the demand, needlessly jacking up the price of oil. Since I chill out on the farm most of the time, I'm not affected by the price of gas the way most people are, but it seems like I'm the only slowpoke on the road. People flip me birds and even a State Trooper was up in my shit the other day for driving 42 in a 45.
A couple of weeks ago, there was a lady on TV crying as she was pumping gas into her SUV. She was saying something like, "Bush has got to do something." It's very rare that I defend Bush, but that lady has some serious personal responsibility issues she needs to address before she blames others. Most drivers in America do. |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| A couple of weeks ago, there was a lady on TV crying as she was pumping gas into her SUV. She was saying something like, "Bush has got to do something." It's very rare that I defend Bush, but that lady has some serious personal responsibility issues she needs to address before she blames others. Most drivers in America do. |
Yeah first thing she could do is park the SUV and buy a used subcompact beater. Although I hear those are going for a premium these days. |
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