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scytale
Joined: 26 Apr 2008
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 Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: Pagoda or Wall Street? |
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| I plan on coming to Korea soon and I'm talking to a number of adult schools. It looks like I'm at least going to get a choice between Pagoda and Wall Street. It looks like Pagoda pays just slightly better, but Wall Street promises block shifts. Does anyone reccomend one or the other? |
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WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| It depends on which Pagoda branch you work in. I worked at Kangnam Pagoda three years ago and I never had to do splits. I liked it. Find out where you wil work and what hours you're expected to be availble. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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I can't comment on Pagoda because I've never worked for them or even known anyone who has. I can say good things about Wall Street though as I work for them now; they're great.
PM me if you have any specific questions and do a search on this site for both of these schools to dig up old threads about them (try Google as the search function on this site doesn't work). |
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i4NI
Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| which reminds me, someone posted a really useful way to search this site using special keywords in google. Could someone repost that please? |
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bizrandom
Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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I just took a position with Wall Street. Opted for them over all the other offers, including EPIK. Seems to me to be an orginization that has their stuff together. Plus I have been VERY happy with all my interactions with them thus far. I am sure it will be great once I am over and working.
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jadefrog
Joined: 17 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I would be wary of Wall Street. There have been more than a few rumors of the newly opened schools not being able to pay teacher's salaries. They are rumors though. |
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scytale
Joined: 26 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Those are weird rumors because I know that Wall Street is part of an international company. If they have schools in like 20 countries, you'd think there's cash in the bank. |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| jadefrog wrote: |
| I would be wary of Wall Street. There have been more than a few rumors of the newly opened schools not being able to pay teacher's salaries. They are rumors though. |
Really? That's odd. Never had any trouble with my paycheck. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| Whistleblower wrote: |
| jadefrog wrote: |
| I would be wary of Wall Street. There have been more than a few rumors of the newly opened schools not being able to pay teacher's salaries. They are rumors though. |
Really? That's odd. Never had any trouble with my paycheck. |
Mine either, and this is the first I've heard of this rumor. However, each country is a franchise, so even if WSI International is doing well, WSI Korea may not be. |
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Johnwayne
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| jadefrog wrote: |
| I would be wary of Wall Street. There have been more than a few rumors of the newly opened schools not being able to pay teacher's salaries. They are rumors though. |
WSI Korea may be a franchise of WSI International, but each school in Korea is not a franchise of WSI Korea. All the schools are company owned, so the idea of a handful of branches not being able to pay their teachers is quite laughable.
Furthermore, I know some of the teachers working at newer branches and they haven't been complaining about not getting paid and I am sure they would be if that were the case.
Having said that, WSI is hands down the best place to work with adults out of all the main adult academies here (e.g. YBM, Pagoda, DE, etc.). I know teachers that have worked at each of the competing academies and they have all said they wish they had found out about WSI sooner. |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: |
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WSI = no split shifts, bonus (not severance) a few times a year for full time staff and some good workshops.
YBM = split shifts, no bonus, no workshops and slavery.
WSI wins hands down. |
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artyom
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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WSI = no split shifts, bonus (not severance) a few times a year for full time staff and some good workshops.
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Do you mean that they don't pay severance, or that they pay severance as well as bonus? |
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bizrandom
Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| artyom wrote: |
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WSI = no split shifts, bonus (not severance) a few times a year for full time staff and some good workshops.
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Do you mean that they don't pay severance, or that they pay severance as well as bonus? |
according to my contract it is both. The quarterly bonus is merely meeting sales goals. The severence is required by law. There is no guaranteed bonus, but it is there is things keep going well. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| bizrandom wrote: |
| The quarterly bonus is merely meeting sales goals. |
They require you to be salesmen? |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Nah, you ain't a salesman but they give staff a bonus if things go well. The Korean staff are mainly sales people but the good thing is that all staff are rewarded, not just the top management (which is what happens at most schools in Korea). |
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