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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Japanese jealous Mount Yushan's taller than Fuji?! |
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One of my Korean friends recently came back from a trip to Taiwan. She's nice, intelligent, and reasonable, but like all Koreans, has been fed a diet of propaganda since she came out the birth canal.
She told me that Japanese people are jealous of Taiwan because their highest mountain, Mount Yushan, is taller than Mount Fuji. Has anyone else heard about this? |
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I_Am_The_Kiwi
Joined: 10 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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never heard it before....lived in Japan last year.
Fuji is a big bitch, but there are still loads of mountains higher than it..... |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds like something a Korean would say, but doesn't sound like something a Japanese person would say. |
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endo
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Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like your friend in projecting her own insecurities on to the Japanese.
But anyways, most people in Taiwan drive Japanese automobiles. The Japanese have nothing to be insecure about there. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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 I seriously doubt any Japanese would say anything like that.
The average Japanese person doesn't give much thought to Korea except for possibly having some Kalbi for dinner.  |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| japanese have no reason to be jealous of taiwan. they live in japan. |
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jiyull
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| I'm sure that the Japanese will write in their history books that Fuji is two times taller than Mount Yushan. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| jiyull wrote: |
| I'm sure that the Japanese will write in their history books that Fuji is two times taller than Mount Yushan. |
no they won't, they're not korean. |
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Donghae
Joined: 24 Dec 2003
Location: Fukuoka, Japan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Japanese jealous Mount Yushan's taller than Fuji?! |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
One of my Korean friends recently came back from a trip to Taiwan. She's nice, intelligent, and reasonable, but like all Koreans, has been fed a diet of propaganda since she came out the birth canal.
She told me that Japanese people are jealous of Taiwan because their highest mountain, Mount Yushan, is taller than Mount Fuji. Has anyone else heard about this? |
I've been in Japan quite a long time and a generalisation that Japanese people (as a whole ) are jealous of Taiwan for this reason would not be one that I'd agree with.
BUT....what this lady has mentioned is not totally inconsistent with feelings I have heard some Japanese, particularly older people, express. I have come across Japanese people who have remarked that the highest mountain in Taiwan used to be the highest mountain of Japan (i.e. when Taiwan was colonised by the Japanese) and expressed nostalgia/regret that it (and Taiwan as a whole) was no longer a part of Japan with it being "one of the greatest mountains in Asia" (sic).
I'm not sure that these kind of feelings would be best described as being "jealous of Taiwan", but she's still not so far off base with that description.
As I said, it's quite possible that she's met some Japanese in Taiwan expressing the above feelings, although most Japanese, especially the younger generation, don't really know a lot about Taiwan in the first place, let alone harbour any jealousy towards it. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Japanese jealous Mount Yushan's taller than Fuji?! |
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| Donghae wrote: |
BUT....what this lady has mentioned is not totally inconsistent with feelings I have heard some Japanese, particularly older people, express. I have come across Japanese people who have remarked that the highest mountain in Taiwan used to be the highest mountain of Japan (i.e. when Taiwan was colonised by the Japanese) and expressed nostalgia/regret that it (and Taiwan as a whole) was no longer a part of Japan with it being "one of the greatest mountains in Asia" (sic).
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i'm calling bullshit on that too.
firstly, it'd have to be someone well over the age of 70. japanese occupation ended in 1945. anyone who had anything more than a dabbling interest in geography would have had to be at least in 4th grade at that point to even know that mountain existed.
maybe you are fluent in japanese and are hearing a side of older japanese that the rest of us don't.
why would japanese be jealous of a higher mountain? nobody has ever heard of yushan. the whole world knows mount fuji. whether you like it or not, it's an iconic symbol that everyone associates with japan.
very few japanese people have any actual experience with the colonial period. those that do are either senile or they don't want to remember what happened right at the end (the part where they got their asses fully kicked in a war).
seriously. like them or not, no japanese person is whining about whether or not their rock-dick is bigger. leave that to koreans and their cartography.
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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Just out of interest, anyone on dave's ever climbed Mt. Fuji?
I've been enjoying the Everest thing on the Discovery channel and just wandered how experienced you'd need to be to be able to climb it (Mt. Fuji) and get back down in one piece. |
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Bigfeet
Joined: 29 May 2008
Location: Grrrrr.....
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| I"ve heard of Mt. Fuji before but I"ve never heard of Mt. Yushan. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:22 am Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
| jiyull wrote: |
| I'm sure that the Japanese will write in their history books that Fuji is two times taller than Mount Yushan. |
no they won't, they're not korean. |
Of course they won't. Japanese textbook historians are good at pretending stuff doesn't exist.
They're like magicians who make atrocities disappear. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| uberscheisse wrote: |
| jiyull wrote: |
| I'm sure that the Japanese will write in their history books that Fuji is two times taller than Mount Yushan. |
no they won't, they're not korean. |
Of course they won't. Japanese textbook historians are good at pretending stuff doesn't exist.
They're like magicians who make atrocities disappear. |
History is written by the victors..... except in Japan. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
| uberscheisse wrote: |
| jiyull wrote: |
| I'm sure that the Japanese will write in their history books that Fuji is two times taller than Mount Yushan. |
no they won't, they're not korean. |
Of course they won't. Japanese textbook historians are good at pretending stuff doesn't exist.
They're like magicians who make atrocities disappear. |
true, but why would they lie about the size of a mountain? that's stupid.
the reason nobody's called out korea publicly in any grand fashion for re-drawing maps to make certain things look more like a john holmes dildo is because nobody cares. |
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