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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Pickens Plan Reply with quote

T. Boone Pickens has created a website advocating for his solutions to getting out of the energy mess. It is a solid plan, bipartisan, prudent and maybe even effective.

http://www.pickensplan.com/
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natural gas and wind to get out of the rough patch, to more nukes 20-30 years from now makes a lot more damn sense than burning FOOD for fuel.

Eh?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the kind of thing Lee Iaccoca was talking about a couple of weeks ago--utilizing leadership from successful people.

I particularly like the wind power part of his idea because we won't run out of wind, like eventually we will of oil and natural gas.

A part that he didn't mention is that the states where the wind is are also where they are pumping too much water out of the aquafers and drying out the prairies to produce an excess of wheat. By the ranchers and farmers on the Great Plains putting up wind generators, they could supplement their income and partially insulate themselves from the ups and downs of the grain market.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think there might be an aquifier in Iowa right now that could use some drying up. Are those things portable?

They do make the landscape look like Star Wars though. That's a nimby argument, sorry. Heck, I'd be happy with a solar shower at my place.
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blade



Joined: 30 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like how my country Ireland is coloured nearly all red in Pickens' map and thus a perfect location for wind power generation and the fact that such a large continental shelf might potentially allow it to become a major supplier of wind power in Europe.
Personally if the US, Europe and other wealthy countries combine their resources then a solution to the energy crises may not be so far off. People really need to understand that this crisis is not just a US or European problem but a global problem which we all have an interest in solving. Decreased demand in say China should make oil less expensive for us and thus give our economies more time to adapt before oil becomes too expensive for us to use and an alternative needs to be put in place.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Pickens' Plan:

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In the Texas panhandle, just north of Sweetwater, is the town of Pampa, where T. Boone Pickens' Mesa Power is currently building the largest wind farm in the world.

At 4,000 megawatts � the equivalent combined output of four large coal-fire plants � the production of the completed Pampa facility will double the wind energy output of the United States.



Wind power plants can already be built in the free market. We just need to quit subsidizing the production and, more importantly, the USE of energy. We just need to eliminate all subsidies, taxes and regulations and get out of the way.

Pickens is just looking for a hand-out - a big fascist-socialist, corporate subsidy so he can make more money. Screw the taxpayers, screw the economy, screw our liberty - go socialism and more money for the political classes.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
go socialism


I'd write it this way: Go Socialism Exclamation Exclamation
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