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oskinny1
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: To all Canadians complaining about the US and Gitmo |
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It is time for you to STFU.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CANADA_GUANTANAMO_DETAINEE?SITE=AP
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TORONTO (AP) -- A 16-year-old captured in Afghanistan and held at Guantanamo Bay sobs during his questioning, holding up his wounded arms and begging for help in a video released Tuesday that provided the first glimpse of interrogations at the U.S. military prison.
"Help me," he cries repeatedly in despair.
The 10 minutes of video - selected by Omar Khadr's Canadian lawyers from more than seven hours of footage recorded by a camera hidden in a vent - shows Khadr weeping, his face buried in his hands, as he is questioned by Canadian intelligence agents over four days in 2003. |
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mises
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| This thread will turn out well. |
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peppermint
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:08 am Post subject: |
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A. this belongs in Current Events
B. the OP clearly knows next to nothing about the Khadr case. Six years in Gitmo, and you're pointing to ten minutes of tape as evidence that the Canucks abused this kid? |
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thiophene
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| How the hell does this negate the actions of the US? He was a 16 year old, and the US still can't put forth a solid case, it' disgusting. |
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tomwaits
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Fair enough --when the US Govt will STKU about Castro.
"There's human rights violations in Cuba..." Yes there are--at Guantanamo Bay. |
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newteacher
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think he's claiming it negates the actions of the US, at least I hope he isn't. I think all the OP is trying to point out is that Canadians shouldn't criticize the US for things that their government is also taking part in, unless they're going to apply the same criticisms to the Canadian government as well. |
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oskinny1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| newteacher wrote: |
| I don't think he's claiming it negates the actions of the US, at least I hope he isn't. I think all the OP is trying to point out is that Canadians shouldn't criticize the US for things that their government is also taking part in, unless they're going to apply the same criticisms to the Canadian government as well. |
Yes. |
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mises
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| tomwaits wrote: |
Fair enough --when the US Govt will STKU about Castro.
"There's human rights violations in Cuba..." Yes there are--at Guantanamo Bay. |
And in Cuba. |
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Young FRANKenstein
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: To all Canadians complaining about the US and Gitmo |
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| oskinny1 wrote: |
| It is time for you to STFU. |
Does this also apply to Americans complaining about Gitmo? |
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Hank the Iconoclast
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Gitmo is a human rights travesty. It doesn't matter whether you or Canadian or American to see that one. |
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oskinny1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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My reason for this post was for all those Canadians who decided to do a blanket criticism of the US and all of its citizens because of Gitmo and Iraq. There are many of us who disagree with what is happening there. I am not trying to negate anything that has been going on there either. I wanted to show that the Canadian gov't was involved and benefited from it.
Also, I am not saying Canadians are bad people now. They have as much say in these things as the average American, zero. |
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Young FRANKenstein
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| oskinny1 wrote: |
| I am not saying Canadians are bad people now. They have as much say in these things as the average American, zero. |
And I say it is our duty to speak up, both Americans and Canadians, when we see our respective governments to something they shouldn't. Do they have to listen to us? Obviously they don't, but we DO have the right to be heard. |
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oskinny1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| oskinny1 wrote: |
| I am not saying Canadians are bad people now. They have as much say in these things as the average American, zero. |
And I say it is our duty to speak up, both Americans and Canadians, when we see our respective governments to something they shouldn't. Do they have to listen to us? Obviously they don't, but we DO have the right to be heard. |
Of course, but some people feel the need to speak up to me and other Americans about how horrible WE are for Gitmo. I am tired of the "Americans are all bad" BS.
Same can be said for all countries that have troops in Iraq/Afghanistan. If you have troops there, obviously your gov't is in support of the US, so you have no right to bitch at the US without also bitching about your own country in the same sentence (if it is about this subject). |
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Underwaterbob
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| oskinny1 wrote: |
Same can be said for all countries that have troops in Iraq/Afghanistan. If you have troops there, obviously your gov't is in support of the US, so you have no right to bitch at the US without also bitching about your own country in the same sentence (if it is about this subject). |
But, but... they started it! |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I am tired of the "Americans are all bad" BS. |
I think you're being a little too sensitive. As the old saying goes 'sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me'. Move on! |
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