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Gollywog
Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Location: Debussy's brain
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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CheeseSandwich wrote:
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I never understood why Koreans have such contempt for the states.
They were liberated by the States leading the western countries in the 50s. Do they even know that South Korea was like a hundred mile bubble around Busan before the Incheon landings?
They were liberated 5 years earlier with the defeat of Japan.
They were industrialized quickly due to a flush of cash and extremly favored trading status with the west, most notably the USA. This continues to this day. Look at the disparity between the imports and exports of each country.
And when US products like cars do make it to Korea, they are marked up 100%.
Seriously, if it wasn't for the western world, Korea would just now be building something other than thatched hut homes and living under the glory of the Kim Jong Il |
Well put.
I don't know about "older ones," Young FRANKenstein.
This is the year 2008. The fighting stopped in 1953, 55 years ago. So a person would need to have been about 15 to understand what was happening, making such a person about 70 years old today.
Even the Korean teachers are clueless about America's role. Just ask them their opinion. Ask them how many foreigners fought on South Korea's side during the Korean War, and how many died.
Don't be surprised to get answers like: 100, 1,000 - for "fought," and "10" or "100" for "died."
It is my great hope that the Korean students we are teaching English to will one day use that English to read authoritative books about history to get a more objective view of the world.
Given that 95 percent of the middle schools I've seen can't read above a first grade level, I'm afraid this is not going to be the pastime of many of them, as adults.
However, mark my words: If you teach, say, 500 students per semester, and only 1 percent go on to truly master English, that leaves five students who will go on to become well-educated, worldly Korean adults. That's not so bad.
Perhaps one day 10 or 20 or 30 years from now, when one of these former students courageously speaks out against the Korean mob with the truth about the West, they will be stoned to death.
Just a thought. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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saw6436 wrote: |
And thus ends the Beef Protests. |
HA! That's right! |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Gollywog wrote: |
Well put.
I don't know about "older ones," Young FRANKenstein.
This is the year 2008. The fighting stopped in 1953, 55 years ago. So a person would need to have been about 15 to understand what was happening, making such a person about 70 years old today.
Even the Korean teachers are clueless about America's role. Just ask them their opinion. Ask them how many foreigners fought on South Korea's side during the Korean War, and how many died.
Don't be surprised to get answers like: 100, 1,000 - for "fought," and "10" or "100" for "died."
It is my great hope that the Korean students we are teaching English to will one day use that English to read authoritative books about history to get a more objective view of the world.
Given that 95 percent of the middle schools I've seen can't read above a first grade level, I'm afraid this is not going to be the pastime of many of them, as adults.
However, mark my words: If you teach, say, 500 students per semester, and only 1 percent go on to truly master English, that leaves five students who will go on to become well-educated, worldly Korean adults. That's not so bad.
Perhaps one day 10 or 20 or 30 years from now, when one of these former students courageously speaks out against the Korean mob with the truth about the West, they will be stoned to death.
Just a thought. |
Wow, you should see if Lifetime is hiring writers, because that was easily the most melodramatic, contrived, patently insincere thing I have perhaps ever read on this entire board. Congratulations. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Gollywog wrote: |
I don't know about "older ones," Young FRANKenstein.
This is the year 2008. The fighting stopped in 1953, 55 years ago. So a person would need to have been about 15 to understand what was happening, making such a person about 70 years old today. |
Right. The older ones. That's what I said. |
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branchsnapper
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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They were moaning about the U.S not using the correct terms for Dokdo on TV this morning. It is still all America's fault.
(And as we discussed in another thread, the U.S did specifically change the treaty at the end of WW2 to exclude Dokdo, when originally it had been said to be Korean. As I recall, some particular U.S official is blamed for that, and accused of having corrupt motives). |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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w00t Koreans can only be angry at one country at a time, (exception: no matter what the Norks do the standard demo idiots never get angry at them, they can shoot all the people in the back that they want) so now America gets off the hook. Kind of like the brewing anti-EnglishSpectrum backlash was all forgotten when the original Dokdo thing started. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Dev wrote: |
I wonder if Japan does these things on purpose just to get a reaction out of Korea.
Please tell me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Japanese have disputes over some of its Northern islands with the Russians? Yet, the Japanese weren't burning Russian flags in their streets. |
I think the mass majority of people in Japan aren't even aware of any of this! |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Tiger Beer wrote: |
I think the mass majority of people in Japan aren't even aware of any of this! |
Exactly. they have more important stuff to think about. Like enjoying their lives |
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