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catman
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| I blame the Bush Administation. That is not the same as blaming all Americans. |
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TheUrbanMyth
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:27 pm Post subject: Re: To all Canadians complaining about the US and Gitmo |
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| oskinny1 wrote: |
It is time for you to STFU.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CANADA_GUANTANAMO_DETAINEE?SITE=AP
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TORONTO (AP) -- A 16-year-old captured in Afghanistan and held at Guantanamo Bay sobs during his questioning, holding up his wounded arms and begging for help in a video released Tuesday that provided the first glimpse of interrogations at the U.S. military prison.
"Help me," he cries repeatedly in despair.
The 10 minutes of video - selected by Omar Khadr's Canadian lawyers from more than seven hours of footage recorded by a camera hidden in a vent - shows Khadr weeping, his face buried in his hands, as he is questioned by Canadian intelligence agents over four days in 2003. |
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Were the Canadian intelligence agents involved in the human rights abuses at Guantanamo?
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Then it is time for the OP to be quiet. We have every right to question suspected terrorists.
We can't control what goes on in another country's sovereign territory.
As for Khadr if you're man enough to pick up a AK-47 and shoot at people then you're man enough to face prison. Not so much fun now is it? |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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He was 15 years old when detained.
Plus, EVERY western country has asked for and received its citizens being held at Gitmo. Canada is too afraid of upsetting Washington to do the same. Pretty sad. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I like hummus! |
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Cornfed
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| If you look at the policies and history of the "former" crown colonies, it is clear that they are still ruled by the same people. Although Americans are currently the preferred goons of the elite, it should be obvious that to join the Canadian, British, NZ... military is to agree to murder and torture people for the global aristocracy. |
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oskinny1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: To all Canadians complaining about the US and Gitmo |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Were the Canadian intelligence agents involved in the human rights abuses at Guantanamo?
No?
Then it is time for the OP to be quiet. We have every right to question suspected terrorists.
We can't control what goes on in another country's sovereign territory.
As for Khadr if you're man enough to pick up a AK-47 and shoot at people then you're man enough to face prison. Not so much fun now is it? |
So it is OK for Canada to take advantage and benefit of what the US is doing? That sounds about right for the world. US does the dirty work, everybody complains how it is done, then they happily dance in the good that has come from it.
I love hypocrisy. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
He was 15 years old when detained.
Plus, EVERY western country has asked for and received its citizens being held at Gitmo. Canada is too afraid of upsetting Washington to do the same. Pretty sad. |
Agreed.
I also find some of the logic behind holding him interesting.
Canada and the US ,as well as most western European nations, absolutely abhor the use of child soldiers in parts of Africa and around the world and take some action to try and limit their use.
Now we have Kahdar being held up as some sort of symbolic lamb to the slaughter. HE WAS 15 YEARS OLD!
Some of these children from Africa have committed atrocities far worse then having lobbed a grenade at a foreign (and sorry to say it but) invading soldier. Why do they deserve our sympathy and protection under international law while Kahdar does not? Is it because he killed "one of us?" It's hypocritical to change the rules when it works against us isn't it?
I don't see how anyone here would have turned out any differently than Kahdar given the way and environment in which he was raised. It seems to me that these kids in africa deserve our sympathy while Kahdar only deserves our disgust and contempt.
Where is the distinction here? Do African kids get a free pass and the suppourt of the international community because they kill other africans while Kahdar is in the situation he is in because, god forbid, he killed an American?
Is it because Kahdar had a semi normal life in Canada before his father whisked him off to Afghanistan. Is there some kind of animosity towards him because he betrayed the values that Canadians are supposed to espouse?
Finally, as if it matters to anyone who wants to see him hanged, Kahdar did NOT strap a bomb to his chest and walk into a kindergarten. He was fighting on a battlefield, we can argue that he shouldn't have been there in the first place, but he was on a field of battle. He didn't attack a group of American soldiers posing as a young innocent looking for candy. He was captured in a raid.
All that being said. This boy shouldn't just be let go as if nothing ever happened. It would be nice if his mother were deported because obviously she does not have the welfare of her child in mind. If there had been an immigration proceeding and they had had videotapes of some of the statements she has made she never would have been allowed in. Thus, in my mind, she shouldn't be allowed to remain in Canada.
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Newbie
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Cornfed wrote: |
| If you look at the policies and history of the "former" crown colonies, it is clear that they are still ruled by the same people. Although Americans are currently the preferred goons of the elite, it should be obvious that to join the Canadian, British, NZ... military is to agree to murder and torture people for the global aristocracy. |
Thank god, eh? I love those guys in uniform. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
| I like hummus! |
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