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Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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| To hell with Joy Division when no ones around I put on Saturday Night Fever. |
No you don't. You know you do the Silence of the Lambs dance to Echo and the Bunnymen. |
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blurgalurgalurga
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Come to think of it, didn't Kieth Richards play a few shows in Wehrmacht regalia back in the mid-sixties? Just to piss off the mums and dads, I'd guess.
Anyway, thanks for the information.
Here's another question...when did non-racist skins come back into the mix? Or did they never leave? When I was a kid, back in the mid '80's, a skin was automatically assumed to be a Nazi. Of course, there were lots of punks with shaved heads, but they didn't call themselves skins. Then in the late '90's there seemed to be a resurgence of skins who made a point of declaring themselves anti-White Power. Or was that just how it seemed to me, as somebody outside of that scene, while in fact the anti-WP types had been around the whole time? |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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All my vinyl is at home but I still think, actually know I have the biggest collection in Korea of old school ska..for example I have 15 live special performances on album and all their studio albums and heaps of bootleg videos...its basically been my second job compiling all this stuff over 7 years but I am off in 6 weeks and then I can rip my vinyl bootlegs and have the mega-collection. |
Well, you haven't compared your collection to mine. Granted, my collection is a little more reggae-heavy, but I've got tons of third-wave pre-ska-punk stuff like the Slackers and Skavoovie and more obscure Canadian stuff. I have enough two-tone to cover anything anyone could request at a DJ night.
As far as old school ska goes, I have a huge hunger for '60s bluebeat ska mp3s, although some stuff gets misfiled under reggae.
Oh yeah, and I have Chris Murray stored in my freezer. I'm thinking of thawing him out in September for a couple shows. |
I figured your collection to be a little heavier and the slackers arent what I really classify as Ska for me and I knew you were involved with them coming here so I didnt figure you for the trojan/reggae/ska type but that is what I have at home on vinyl in abundance and I am sure its worth quite a bit these days.
I have been searching for a while to try and track down all bands that are two tonesque in sound whether they are from the 80s or now but I cant seem to get into the ska-punk although I do my like my metal and punk but I dont like it when it touches my idea of ska (make sense?)(
Probably one of my best finds has been some eastern european stuff and german ska, apparently the old school scene is still huge there ands that is probably why madness do that area regularly. Check out frau doktor for the epitome of what I like or if you can ever get a hold of the bluebeat allstars bluebeat party, a side project for the strange tenants then you have my fave album. Pm me if you ever want to know any more, I am sure you have a huge collection of ska/punk/reggae but just ska, it would take a lot to beat mine. |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| Hey, any of you archivists got a copy of King Apparatus on mp3 you want to send me? Can't find that stuff anywhere. I'd pay in beer |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| bundangbabo wrote: |
I have been searching for a while to try and track down all bands that are two tonesque in sound whether they are from the 80s or now but I cant seem to get into the ska-punk although I do my like my metal and punk but I dont like it when it touches my idea of ska (make sense?)( |
Makes perfect sense. I love ska and I love punk, but ska-punk is usually just a bunch of frat boys who don't understand either ska or punk. There are very few exceptions, just Fishbone and a couple songs by the Bosstones.
The Slackers are a ska band that touch a lot of other genres like reggae and soul, which can be a little hard to deal with sometimes. When they were here they were very opinionated about ska-punk and third wave, although that's understandable because they were around to see that fad wither and die.
Have you ever met Beomju? He's very serious about two-tone ska and wants to start a two-tone band, but all his friends are only interested in ska-punk.
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Here's another question...when did non-racist skins come back into the mix? Or did they never leave? When I was a kid, back in the mid '80's, a skin was automatically assumed to be a Nazi. Of course, there were lots of punks with shaved heads, but they didn't call themselves skins. Then in the late '90's there seemed to be a resurgence of skins who made a point of declaring themselves anti-White Power. Or was that just how it seemed to me, as somebody outside of that scene, while in fact the anti-WP types had been around the whole time? |
I don't think normal skinheads ever went away. In the '80s when the racists were at their strongest, the anti-racists were also at their strongest. Sometime in the '90s the idea of a "traditional" skinhead came about and you started seeing a lot more people like me who don't like racists and also resent SHARPs.
I have a few King Apparatus songs, although to be honest I was never a huge fan. |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not really a huge fan of very many bands at all. Even the bands I'm huge fans of, typically they still have plenty of songs I don't like. King Apparatus though I used to always go see when they played in my twon back in the early nineties, and no doubt they were pretty limited, but they put on a good show and I have some fond, blurry memories. I would be stoked to hear a couple of their songs again. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| blurgalurgalurga wrote: |
| I'm not really a huge fan of very many bands at all. Even the bands I'm huge fans of, typically they still have plenty of songs I don't like. King Apparatus though I used to always go see when they played in my twon back in the early nineties, and no doubt they were pretty limited, but they put on a good show and I have some fond, blurry memories. I would be stoked to hear a couple of their songs again. |
Shouldn't be too hard to find a few songs. Chris Murray will be impressed that people over here remember his band. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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They used to have Ska night every Thursday evening at the Dance cave
in Toronto throughout the eighties. I attended the event religiously for two years. There were people of all races and lots of skinheads I never saw a single fight.
Fights were quite common at punk venues in the eighties. Someone mentioned Punks with shaved heads.These were usually Army guys they usually considered themselved skinheads.
There was also a lot of Urban legends surrounding skinheads. One that was really popular was that these guys would roll you for your boots.
I have personally never witnessed this. Despite living for over four years
in Toronto. I've seen people get head butted kicked in the face and never
have I ever seen someone get their boots stolen. This rumour peaked around 1984-1985 with everyone claiming to know someone who was rolled for their docs. The story would start with an older skin meeting up with a punk or a weaker punk or mod. They would start talking friendly.
Then the bigger Skin would say" Give me your boots now and I'll let you walk home".
There were also rumours of people being ganged up on Young street or Queen street. Although I've never seen this happen. It's kind of like that rumour that punks would kick you if you fell in the mosh pit. I never saw it happen.
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
Fights were quite common at punk venues in the eighties.
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This is true. |
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alpope23
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| Ska music was the only chance for the high school band's brass section to get laid. |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| alpope23 wrote: |
| Ska music was the only chance for the high school band's brass section to get laid. |
This is true too. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| blurgalurgalurga wrote: |
| Hey, any of you archivists got a copy of King Apparatus on mp3 you want to send me? Can't find that stuff anywhere. I'd pay in beer |
I got a few albums by King apparatus...send me ur email by pm and I can send you tracks or zip em up and send albums through msn |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Has anyone here heard of The Villians. They were an obcure Skinhead Ska band from the Eighties. |
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bundangbabo
Joined: 01 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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| bundangbabo wrote: |
| blurgalurgalurga wrote: |
| Hey, any of you archivists got a copy of King Apparatus on mp3 you want to send me? Can't find that stuff anywhere. I'd pay in beer |
I got a few albums by King apparatus...send me ur email by pm and I can send you tracks or zip em up and send albums through msn |
sorted guv |
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Lekker
Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| One of my friends I grew up with shaved his head when we were 15. He started hanging around with some douchebags. Started listening to really awful nazi punk music. I could really care less what bands they were he was really into or how significant their contribution to music was. One night he called me up to tell me that they were going to burn down the house of two gay black men who moved into a house two streets down from his friend. That was when I stopped hanging out with him. He got pretty pissed at me for not coming round anymore and one morning threatened to hit me with a baseball bat. Last I heard, he was in jail. Sucks to be him. I can't fucking stand racism. |
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