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Ph.D or Doctorate Degree?

 
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:40 am    Post subject: Ph.D or Doctorate Degree? Reply with quote

Which do you think is the better degree if a teacher is interested in establishing a university EFL teaching career in Asian countries such as Japan, Korea, Taiwan, etc?

I see a lot of Ed.D degrees offered through distance.

Anyone doing an Ed.D right now?

How does a Doctorate differ from a Ph.D degree?
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Sook-sun



Joined: 10 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: Ph.D or Doctorate Degree? Reply with quote

TECO wrote:

How does a Doctorate differ from a Ph.D degree?


No difference.

I can't comment on the first half of your post.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Ph.D. is a doctorate degree. It stands for "Philosophy Doctorate". An Ed.D. is an "Education Doctorate".

A Ph.D. in Education is more research-oriented and theoretical, while and Ed.D. is more practical in terms of its application in the classroom. As a result, the Ph.D. is more difficult as well as more prestigious, so a Ph.D. would be best for acquiring high-level university positions.

Not only that, but you don't have to do a Ph.D. in Education. You can do a Ph.D. in English and still get good jobs.
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kangnam mafioso



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldn't bother with an online or distance phd. a distance masters in tesl might be easy enough, however. in korea, all u need is a masters in anything to teach in a uni and sometimes only a ba and some kind of certificate. in japan and possibly taiwan, i phd and publications wouldn't hurt, although just a masters in tesl, a cambridge celta and some publications would probably be enough to get you started.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan universities hire those with Masters degrees but they won't hire anyone with a distance Masters degree.

In Japan, a Ph.D and publications (for schools in Tokyo especially) are the minimum requirement. And they seem to get people with those backgrounds!

I sent in my resume to a few Japanse universities (5 years EFL experience and partially completed distance M.A. in Applied Linguistics and no publications) and was told politely that I am not even close to being competitive with many of the people that had applied Shocked
And one of these schools was in the sticks (Shikoku).

Ironically, I had a Korean university offer me a position for March 2004. However, when a Ph.D told them he wanted the position, they sent me e-mail retracting the job offer Crying or Very sad

So, if you're up against a Ph.D with only your B.A. or partially completed M.A. - likely you aren't going to get the position.
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