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Surprising news about Korea & petrochemicals

 
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Surprising news about Korea & petrochemicals Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2008/07/123_27678.html

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Petrochemicals Up With Korea�s Top Exports

Despite the country not producing a drop of oil and the exorbitant costs of fossil fuels, petrochemicals are high on the list of Korea's top exports.

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"South Korea is now the only Asian country capable of producing oil products enough to cover all domestic demand and also make reserves for exports," said Lee Dong-hoon, an official of local refiner S-Oil.

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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huh? I don't get it.
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cheeseface



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
huh? I don't get it.


Korea has more/better oil refineries than other Asian countries........
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Temporary



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But is it better then North America or Europe or Middle East?

Sure they might have the best in Asia but thats not saying much.. Thats like winning a race in the special olympics.
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
huh? I don't get it.


Korea imports crude oil and processes it at refineries, producing petrochemicals which can be exported. It's sort of like how a country that has no iron ore can nevertheless produce cars in factories.
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moosehead



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so where are all these refineries?

I've traveled most of the country, haven't seen any petrochemical plants - !

seriously, where are they?
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visitorq



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds bogus to me... where are they exporting the oil? North Korea??
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aekyung is one of slew of Petrochemical companies in Seoul. Aekyung also makes toothpaste and toiletries.

I'm sure all the major Chaebols have hteir hands in the Petrochemical cookie jar.
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cheeseface



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
so where are all these refineries?

I've traveled most of the country, haven't seen any petrochemical plants - !

seriously, where are they?


Have you been to Incheon? Near the port?
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the one in ulsan is supposed to be one of the largest in the world. S.oil and SK and Hyundai all have facilities out here.
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Bryan



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Temporary wrote:
But is it better then North America or Europe or Middle East?

Sure they might have the best in Asia but thats not saying much.. Thats like winning a race in the special olympics.


North America has had extremely environmentalist legislation since the 70s that has effectively halted the creation of gas/oil refining plants. I've read that there hasn't been a new one built in decades in the US.

The Middle Eastern dictatorships are usually good for nothing. They usually export crude oil and leave the refining to other more advanced countries. That is exactly what Korea does. Most of the Middle Eastern dictatorships can't produce a thing, they basically nationalized and stole all the oil wells and technology that Western companies built anyway. I'm not including the more Westernized and advanced countries like Kuwait, Israel, and UAE in that assessment.

I'm sure Korea will only become better with this once China explores the offshore oil reserves and more oil flows out of Eastern Russia. Korea is taking steps to emulate Japan in being a industrial powerhouse without having the primary resources within its borders. Japan will never rival Korea in the oil refining industry (my guess) because of their environmentalist laws.
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GoldMember



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go out to Ulsan and you'll see miles and miles of petrochemical plants, spewing out heaps of toxic fumes into the atmosphere.
Ulsan is an absolute dump.
The Ulsan city government was so desperate to find something, anything positive to say about their city that they list, the Hyundai car factory AND the petrochemical plants as a tourist attraction.
What's next? Bus loads of tourists to gasp in amazement at the local sewage processing plant.
If it's a dirty. filthy industry but one that will produce jobs Korea will do it!
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jhaelin



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as the name implies petrochemicals are chemical derivatives of petroleum

although gasoline is what we are most familiar with as consumers, everything from plastics, fertilizer components and countless other chemical additives are made from petroleum.
the surplus is probably because korea invested heavily in the chemical industries during the park chung hee era and many large corporations continue to thrive today.
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matthews_world



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any number of these conglomerates that run gas stations around the peninsula, S-Oil, etc. also operate chemical plants. Same as is the west - Conoco, Exxon, etc.

What the article didn't state is where they rank with the rest of the world. That would be really be interesting to learn.

Petrochemicals, steel and chips are something the Koreans truly excel in.
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moosehead



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, my fave is propylene glycol - a food additive no less.

check the box on just about anything packaged in the States - propylene glycol is almost always included. Shocked Shocked


also that oldie but goodie - styrofoam - I've noticed a marked increase in the past couple of years - must be a new product being turned out here.

is remarkable considering how hard we (environmentalists) worked to cut down or ban their use in the U.S. and now it's like the newest thing here -

the more things change, the more they remain the same Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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