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Is making a Facebook account suitable for MS students?
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Is making a Facebook account suitable for MS students? Reply with quote

Last year in my summer camp I showed students how to set up a Myspace account, since nearly all of them already have Cyworld pages. I realized later that Myspace probably wasn't appropriate since there are a lot of provocative photos and videos. However, there are still some students from that class that still use their Myspace pages and send me messages to my dummy account. They've told me that they are happy to be able to chat or leave messages with other English speaking teenagers around the world, as well as use the music and video sections.

However, would Facebook be a decent alternative? I hardly ever use it, and I'm not familiar with all the features that they offer.
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DrOctagon



Joined: 11 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Facebook is great because it has an easy-to-use chat program. With Myspace, you have to download their chat program. Most pages on Myspace are very image heavy, and they can crash web-browsers. Myspace also has way too many advertisements. To me, Facebook is easier to use, easier on the eyes, and more adult-friendly. Just stay away from all the stupid applications people try get you to download. You can easily block requests to download apps though. Or just ignore them all like I do.
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

use www.ning.com
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ds_fan



Joined: 07 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why the hell would u want kids you teach looking at your facebook page, knowing everything about you and where you will be and when etc
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thatwhitegirl



Joined: 31 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP or whoever wanted to do this camp could just set up a dummy page. Obviously you wouldn't want your students to have access to your actual page.
I can see how this would be good for the kids. They'll get a chance to make friends and chat with kids in other countries. Practice their English skills, etc.
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xCustomx



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ds_fan wrote:
why the hell would u want kids you teach looking at your facebook page, knowing everything about you and where you will be and when etc


If you read my post, I said I hardly ever use it. I dont even have my picture on my page, nor do I update anything.

I'll just make another dummy account so that all the students can add me as a friend, and then they can add each other and network from there.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful and make sure they get those accounts that protect minors from the Chris Paul Neil's of the world.
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are already on the internet, why do we need a "social network"? Everyone who we wanted to network with would have to sign up with the same site. Doesn't make sense to me.
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jiyull



Joined: 21 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

facebook is really good

you can just open up another account as "Teacher NAME*
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merkurix



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ds_fan wrote:
why the hell would u want kids you teach looking at your facebook page, knowing everything about you and where you will be and when etc


This is why I encourage teachers who wish to create a social networking site to use Ning. Ning is a social networking site that you control, you can control who gets access, you can make sure no unauthorized people get in--you can require all of your students to create a page, post blogs and interact with one another in an intranet you create. The addons you can put on there are endless. I know of a few teachers who have had success with this project. A good friend and colleague of mine regularly does professional presentations on the wonders of Ning.
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Kikomom



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My initial impression was that MySpace was for high school, Facebook was used more by college students, adults blog.

Setting up a dummy account to get the kids networking sounds ok, but Facebook 'suggests' strangers to add as friends. Ning.com looks like a better choice for a closed network.

DrOctagon wrote:
Most pages on Myspace are very image heavy, and they can crash web-browsers.

Because people just download their cameras without editing for minimal size. Then they upload those godawful 1mb pics (or larger) ...uggh Not sure if MySpace does it or not, but most hosting sites will resize an image to optimal size automatically.

xCustomx wrote:
Myspace probably wasn't appropriate since there are a lot of provocative photos and videos.

And these can be accessed by any member just browsing around? Not appropriate for middle-schoolers.


I'm still of the 'old-school' of internet anonymity. Giving out names and addresses, phone numbers should be closely guarded and if anything ever happened to that child because of one of these accounts (even kids have proven themselves to be very cruel online), I'm afraid those responsible would be tard'n feathered and run of out town on a rail...
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not a great idea.

would the parents be cool with the possibility of random people 'friending' their kids? with the possibility of that much personal info going into the English-speaking world (which, let's face it, isn't as 'innocent' as Korea)
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried it during one of my extra classes and it was an epic fail. Luckily, I had a backup plan.
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Kikomom



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the students all have pc's in class? Or do they bring laptops?
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ddeubel



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend Ning, mostly because YOU the administrator have lots of control and security. Further, you can change the language of anything on the network -- so for important things, just use the language editor and enter the hanguel so the students know what to do -- but leave a lot of English so they are learning when doing.

Another option is to just create a Classroom on EFL Classroom 2.0. Create one account and everyone uses that same ID/PW (allows multiple , same time log in). You have one home page and one "Classroom" for discussion/creation. Plus, all the learning materials/acitivities at your fingertips on EFL classroom 2.0

There are a number of classroom pages on EFL classroom 2.0 where students access the network. I've even created some activities/projects for them!

DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com
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