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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Bombed an open class Reply with quote

Hey do you remember back in High School and University when you were writing tests. Have you ever written a test and thought, while walking out of the classroom, that you nailed it. 90% at least you'd think. Remember when you got that test back only to find out that you BOMBED it? I think that I had an event like that happen today.

I had a Kindy open class. The children's mothers came in to sit in on a class, it was very important to the school, so I decided to try and do my best.

I had the kids answering questions, reading from books and I was almost able to to give the illiusion that the kids actually fully understood the limited amount of English that they have learned thius far. I walked out of the class thinking. "Ahhh it's a 75%, not too great but not too bad."

WRONG!

It turned out that I didn't smile enough and didn't seem friendly enough with the children. The mothers are considering pulling their kids out of the school becuase of it.
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jadarite



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: Andong, Yeongyang, Seoul, now Pyeongtaek

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were the hypocrites smiling?
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raclos234



Joined: 24 Mar 2007
Location: korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at least u tried.

i had a similar situation at my first school. the only difference was that the foreign teacher who was teaching the class quit the day before. so my director threw me into a open class w/ the parents there and i had no idea what was going on.

it didnt go too bad. i fooled the parents enough to think the kids knew what the hell i was saying. but it also probably helped that the parents liked me than the previous teacher.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm notorious for not smiling enough. For some reason all of the students in my school (all classes other than mine included) like me regardless. I have been through 3 of these open house situations with never a complaint from parents. It sounds like your school has some parents that want an edutaining monkey teaching their kids.
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Imrahil



Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Location: On the other side of the world.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, I have to say that your avatar and the complaint go perfectly together.

Now to the serious issue, that complaint is just rediculous. I hate how they complain about things such as: not smiling enough, not standing in class enough, not congradualating the kids enough, or not writing on the white board enough etc. In most cases those complaints are just stupid. Are you sure it was the parents that complained? Or is the school just making a complaint up to try to scare/manipulate/or control you?
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Bombed an open class Reply with quote

tanklor1 wrote:
Hey do you remember back in High School and University when you were writing tests. Have you ever written a test and thought, while walking out of the classroom, that you nailed it. 90% at least you'd think. Remember when you got that test back only to find out that you BOMBED it? I think that I had an event like that happen today.

I had a Kindy open class. The children's mothers came in to sit in on a class, it was very important to the school, so I decided to try and do my best.

I had the kids answering questions, reading from books and I was almost able to to give the illiusion that the kids actually fully understood the limited amount of English that they have learned thius far. I walked out of the class thinking. "Ahhh it's a 75%, not too great but not too bad."

WRONG!

It turned out that I didn't smile enough and didn't seem friendly enough with the children. The mothers are considering pulling their kids out of the school becuase of it.


I was once criticized because the mothers thought that I should sing more, I should dance more, I should act like a monkey . . . . one of them said, "You know Isaac Durst? The foreigner on TV? Why don't you teach more like him?" All I could think was Rolling Eyes

Don't worry about it too much. It could be worse. I knew a guy from NZ who got fired because the mommies demanded that the hagwon change the native speaker as he did not have an "American" accent. With the collective threat of mass hagwon exodus of kindy students looming over the wanjangnim's head, he relented to the mommies' demands and fired the Kiwi. Poor guy. This was in Gangnam.
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, did you look like your avatar in class? If so, I wouldn't be surprised about the comment.



Seriously though, the mothers are thinking of a good reason to get their kids out of the hagwon and blaming the foreigner is an easy reason but kind of lame. Think about it: kindergarten rates have increased above the rate of inflation in a year, the cost of living is more expensive, the country is due to go into a recession because of the global economy and the housing market is in turmoil. The mothers have less cash to spend on their shopping, education for their little brats and want to get the hagwons to close out of spite for their situation.

Move on and don't think too much. I am sure your class was great, you prepared but the school probably isn't expecting the parents to really withdraw their kids. Remember that Koreans lie on a daily basis for their own goals and this seems like one of those times.

Chin up old lad.
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The Grumpy Senator



Joined: 13 Jan 2008
Location: Up and down the 6 line

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imrahil wrote:
First, I have to say that your avatar and the complaint go perfectly together.

Now to the serious issue, that complaint is just rediculous. I hate how they complain about things such as: not smiling enough, not standing in class enough, not congradualating the kids enough, or not writing on the white board enough etc. In most cases those complaints are just stupid. Are you sure it was the parents that complained? Or is the school just making a complaint up to try to scare/manipulate/or control you?


So kindy teachers should sit at their desk, never praise a child to build their confidence, look stern, and do not give any visual aids in order to make connections between sounds and letters/words.

Hell, I would pull my kid outta that school as well. C'mon, do you even know how to manage a classroom?? If you are worried that having to keep kindy aged children engaged in a lesson will make you look silly, then why would you take the job??
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Whirlwind



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who the hell wants to teach kindergarten anyway? I specifically have clausee in my contract that say that I don't do kindy.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I hate how they complain about things such as: not smiling enough, not standing in class enough, not congradualating the kids enough, or not writing on the white board enough etc. In most cases those complaints are just stupid.


Actually, no they are not stupid.

A teacher is responsible for establishing a warm, supportive atmosphere in class. It doesn't matter what country you are talking about.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

During my parents' week, I had one group bring in their toddlers to run around as I was trying to teach their elder kiddos(6-7 years old). The parents let the toddlers run around class, talked at full volume, and answered their phones the entire time I was teaching.
On the evaluation sheet the parents filled out they said I did not control their snowflakes enough and that they were too distracted. No s##t!!!!
But as for the smiling, yous gotta do what yous gotta do.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't worry about it. Your hagwon brought you over knowing that you had (a) no knowledge of of ECE, (b) no knowledge of teaching EFL to very young learners and (c) no knowledge of Korean parents' expectations. Consider this job training in all three, and remember that (c) may have nothing to do with professional teaching at any rate.
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bombenhagen



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: NL

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of the problem is the hagwon itself. Either your Korean partner teacher or boss should be able to handle small complaints like this better than they are obviously doing. The parents want to show your boss that they have the power to act as a group and that they run the show. Regardless of any mistakes that you made, this would of happened.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all horsesh1t anyway. You teach English, not rocket science. Smile, shmile. I did this one-day gig for a couple of hours once where I was a magician. I won't go into the details, but one mother, after my last "showing," asked me why I didn't say, "Voila!" I just said, "That's great!!" sarcastically. "The kids like it when you say 'Voila!'" Told her that "Voila" is a French word and I disappeared forever.

Fk off, lady. I didn't know I was even going to be teaching kindy kids. Eat me.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wouldn't worry about it. i mean, did you actually think they would just say "good job" and leave it at that? of course not, that would make you too confident and self-assured in your position and ability. they will most likely give you "constructive" criticism throughout your time there to keep you working towards something and not slacking off.

if they do bring this up again, just say that you'll work on it
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